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A turboprop PIC's report on an altitude deviation that may classify as a CFIT incident during a night visual approach operation into clt, nc.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 419531 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199811 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : clt airport : clt |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 800 agl bound upper : 900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt tracon : lax |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time total : 15300 flight time type : 1700 |
| ASRS Report | 419531 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While flying with a new hire first officer, I was letting him fly the empty legs. We were on a night visual approach. We were told to hold 170 KTS to the marker. This caused him to be rushed. This first officer is from a foreign country and has trouble understanding my instructions. We started to go below the GS. I told him we were low. He did not adjust our descent. I again told him we were low. I then took the aircraft and adjusted our descent. I let a dangerous situation develop because I did not want to hurt his pride. I should have taken control sooner and then talk about it on the ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A TURBOPROP PIC'S RPT ON AN ALTDEV THAT MAY CLASSIFY AS A CFIT INCIDENT DURING A NIGHT VISUAL APCH OP INTO CLT, NC.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING WITH A NEW HIRE FO, I WAS LETTING HIM FLY THE EMPTY LEGS. WE WERE ON A NIGHT VISUAL APCH. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD 170 KTS TO THE MARKER. THIS CAUSED HIM TO BE RUSHED. THIS FO IS FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND HAS TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING MY INSTRUCTIONS. WE STARTED TO GO BELOW THE GS. I TOLD HIM WE WERE LOW. HE DID NOT ADJUST OUR DSCNT. I AGAIN TOLD HIM WE WERE LOW. I THEN TOOK THE ACFT AND ADJUSTED OUR DSCNT. I LET A DANGEROUS SIT DEVELOP BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO HURT HIS PRIDE. I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CTL SOONER AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT ON THE GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.