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Attributes | |
ACN | 421353 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ind airport : ind |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ind |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Embraer Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 421353 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Slightly off course on visual breakout on ILS approach to minimums and consequent over correction on landing. Chain of events: PF (myself) was on ILS runway 5R approach to ind. Autoplt was turned off at 1000 ft AGL as is company policy. RVR reported at 6000 ft RVR. A textbook standardized approach was flown with no difficulty. PNF (captain) called 'approach lights in sight, continue.' at this point, I started to scan outside as well as instruments despite captain's order to 'stay on gauges.' I drifted slightly right and the ILS displayed this, but not so much to show amber warning, the flight command bars were still centered. I visually obtained runway with aircraft just off to the right of right edge. I was uncomfortable with position and called 'go around,' but captain took command of situation and said 'no, you can make it.' new to aircraft and concerned about wingtip strike stressed in training, I did not adequately control aircraft at first instant. Immediately after, I overctled in attempt to get it down within touchdown zone. As a result, came close to landing on left edge of runway (off centerline, of course). Captain took control at end of flare to assist landing. Landing was smooth. Tough situation to correct. Xfer of control at low altitude. Runway was in sight and captain was exercising his authority/authorized to overrule go around. He gave me every chance to finish approach, but perhaps should have taken controls and gotten aircraft safely on ground. Fault lies with myself for breakdown in scan at critical moment in effort to 'seek runway.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E145 CAPT OVERRIDES FO'S ATTEMPTED GAR AT IND.
Narrative: SLIGHTLY OFF COURSE ON VISUAL BREAKOUT ON ILS APCH TO MINIMUMS AND CONSEQUENT OVER CORRECTION ON LNDG. CHAIN OF EVENTS: PF (MYSELF) WAS ON ILS RWY 5R APCH TO IND. AUTOPLT WAS TURNED OFF AT 1000 FT AGL AS IS COMPANY POLICY. RVR RPTED AT 6000 FT RVR. A TEXTBOOK STANDARDIZED APCH WAS FLOWN WITH NO DIFFICULTY. PNF (CAPT) CALLED 'APCH LIGHTS IN SIGHT, CONTINUE.' AT THIS POINT, I STARTED TO SCAN OUTSIDE AS WELL AS INSTS DESPITE CAPT'S ORDER TO 'STAY ON GAUGES.' I DRIFTED SLIGHTLY R AND THE ILS DISPLAYED THIS, BUT NOT SO MUCH TO SHOW AMBER WARNING, THE FLT COMMAND BARS WERE STILL CTRED. I VISUALLY OBTAINED RWY WITH ACFT JUST OFF TO THE R OF R EDGE. I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH POS AND CALLED 'GAR,' BUT CAPT TOOK COMMAND OF SIT AND SAID 'NO, YOU CAN MAKE IT.' NEW TO ACFT AND CONCERNED ABOUT WINGTIP STRIKE STRESSED IN TRAINING, I DID NOT ADEQUATELY CTL ACFT AT FIRST INSTANT. IMMEDIATELY AFTER, I OVERCTLED IN ATTEMPT TO GET IT DOWN WITHIN TOUCHDOWN ZONE. AS A RESULT, CAME CLOSE TO LNDG ON L EDGE OF RWY (OFF CTRLINE, OF COURSE). CAPT TOOK CTL AT END OF FLARE TO ASSIST LNDG. LNDG WAS SMOOTH. TOUGH SIT TO CORRECT. XFER OF CTL AT LOW ALT. RWY WAS IN SIGHT AND CAPT WAS EXERCISING HIS AUTH TO OVERRULE GAR. HE GAVE ME EVERY CHANCE TO FINISH APCH, BUT PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CTLS AND GOTTEN ACFT SAFELY ON GND. FAULT LIES WITH MYSELF FOR BREAKDOWN IN SCAN AT CRITICAL MOMENT IN EFFORT TO 'SEEK RWY.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.