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Attributes | |
ACN | 421598 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ekn |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : ilm |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 29 |
ASRS Report | 421598 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 27000 vertical : 900 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I had issued a climb to a third aircraft, a B757, to climb to FL350. Later when I could wait no longer for the B757 to level above his traffic, a DC9 at FL330, I descended the DC9 to FL290 and asked for expeditious descent to get under climbing traffic and traffic level at FL310. I had enough time and distance to do this, I thought. The DC9, cargo, after 2 mins 30 seconds, had descended 800 ft. Not even standard rate. Turns were issued to the DC9 and the B737 (who was at FL310). All too little, too late. I expected better performance out of the DC9, and I waited too long to issue turns and/or other instructions. Controller 'a' got it again. This is my first deal in 15 yrs. A good wake up call for me. Reach out, make moves early. On the pilot's side -- it was as clear as a bell. Everybody saw everybody, no surprises, except for mine!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR RPTS LESS THAN THE APPLICABLE SEPARATION MINIMA RESULTED BTWN 2 ACFT.
Narrative: I HAD ISSUED A CLB TO A THIRD ACFT, A B757, TO CLB TO FL350. LATER WHEN I COULD WAIT NO LONGER FOR THE B757 TO LEVEL ABOVE HIS TFC, A DC9 AT FL330, I DSNDED THE DC9 TO FL290 AND ASKED FOR EXPEDITIOUS DSCNT TO GET UNDER CLBING TFC AND TFC LEVEL AT FL310. I HAD ENOUGH TIME AND DISTANCE TO DO THIS, I THOUGHT. THE DC9, CARGO, AFTER 2 MINS 30 SECONDS, HAD DSNDED 800 FT. NOT EVEN STANDARD RATE. TURNS WERE ISSUED TO THE DC9 AND THE B737 (WHO WAS AT FL310). ALL TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE. I EXPECTED BETTER PERFORMANCE OUT OF THE DC9, AND I WAITED TOO LONG TO ISSUE TURNS AND/OR OTHER INSTRUCTIONS. CTLR 'A' GOT IT AGAIN. THIS IS MY FIRST DEAL IN 15 YRS. A GOOD WAKE UP CALL FOR ME. REACH OUT, MAKE MOVES EARLY. ON THE PLT'S SIDE -- IT WAS AS CLR AS A BELL. EVERYBODY SAW EVERYBODY, NO SURPRISES, EXCEPT FOR MINE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.