Flight crew of a beech jet 400, BE40, overshot the ILS hold line and stopped over the hold short lin...

Attributes
ACN	421600
Time
Date	199812
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ilm
State Reference	NC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : sfo
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Beechjet 400
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 9600 flight time type : 73
ASRS Report	421600
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

New captain taxiing out after first international flight. New copilot first time either flown together. Cleared to taxi to runway 35. Monitoring switches as taxi progressed. Setting all for before takeoff. Watching other aircraft. As turned corner, missed seeing new ILS hold line which was before what looked similar to a hold for takeoff area. Noticed partially removed old hold line stopped on top of it. No traffic on final, next to go. Tower advised that in the future we should hold at the line, then cleared us for takeoff. We acknowledged the mistake and they said no problem. This probably settled the problem that could have been much worse. Contributing factors: this was the third in a string of long duty days -- rather infrequent flying time (compared to past), crew new to each other and aircraft. A bit too relaxed after coming back to familiar (domestic) flying conditions. Corrective action will be to take it a bit slower with the new crew members so I don't have to do my job and theirs (actually checking to see they did theirs).

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF A BEECH JET 400, BE40, OVERSHOT THE ILS HOLD LINE AND STOPPED OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE RESULTING IN THE TWR CTLR ADVISING THEM OF THEIR MISTAKE AND THEN CLRING THEM FOR TKOF.

Narrative: NEW CAPT TAXIING OUT AFTER FIRST INTL FLT. NEW COPLT FIRST TIME EITHER FLOWN TOGETHER. CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 35. MONITORING SWITCHES AS TAXI PROGRESSED. SETTING ALL FOR BEFORE TKOF. WATCHING OTHER ACFT. AS TURNED CORNER, MISSED SEEING NEW ILS HOLD LINE WHICH WAS BEFORE WHAT LOOKED SIMILAR TO A HOLD FOR TKOF AREA. NOTICED PARTIALLY REMOVED OLD HOLD LINE STOPPED ON TOP OF IT. NO TFC ON FINAL, NEXT TO GO. TWR ADVISED THAT IN THE FUTURE WE SHOULD HOLD AT THE LINE, THEN CLRED US FOR TKOF. WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE MISTAKE AND THEY SAID NO PROB. THIS PROBABLY SETTLED THE PROB THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH WORSE. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: THIS WAS THE THIRD IN A STRING OF LONG DUTY DAYS -- RATHER INFREQUENT FLYING TIME (COMPARED TO PAST), CREW NEW TO EACH OTHER AND ACFT. A BIT TOO RELAXED AFTER COMING BACK TO FAMILIAR (DOMESTIC) FLYING CONDITIONS. CORRECTIVE ACTION WILL BE TO TAKE IT A BIT SLOWER WITH THE NEW CREW MEMBERS SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO MY JOB AND THEIRS (ACTUALLY CHKING TO SEE THEY DID THEIRS).

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Flight crew of a beech jet 400, BE40, overshot the ILS hold line and stopped over the hold short line resulting in the tower controller advising them of their mistake and then clearing them for takeoff.