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Attributes | |
ACN | 423060 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : roc |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 423060 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 1100 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On dec/xa/98 at approximately XA50 we were cleared for ILS runway 22 by roc approach. We were #2 with no other traffic behind us. Spacing between our aircraft and B737 was approximately 4 mi on TCASII. We were asked by roc approach to slow to 170 KTS for traffic in front of us. Since we gained another approximately 1.5 mi on air carrier, roc approach asked us again to slow further down to 150 KTS. Spacing was still too tight. At this time we were in visual contact with air carrier traffic, and the airport and runway 22. Since there was no other traffic behind us, I slowed further down to 140 KTS and 130 KTS. Then we were handed off to the tower. We called the tower and said 'roc tower on ILS 22' and tower replied, '#2 for landing one departure before you, continue.' we noticed aircraft Y approximately 500 ft from the runway 22 hold short line on taxiway C was cleared for immediate takeoff. We also noticed aircraft Y started to taxi at a very slow taxi speed. Since we were VMC and we tried very hard to communicate with the tower but he was too busy talking to aircraft Y in effort to get him to move or taxi faster due to landing traffic 'us.' at this time I had to make a decision to either go around, or do s-turns to gain time and let the tower know I was unable to reach the tower. Since I thought missed approach will put us in takeoff path and create conflict, I started 1 s-turn and aircraft Y was over the runway numbers and adding power. I had approximately 1.5 mi to the runway. I tried to explain to the tower as to why I took that kind of action. In my opinion, the tower shouldn't have cleared the air carrier Y for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN ACR LTT TURBOPROP TOOK EVASIVE ACTION BY MAKING S-TURNS ON FINAL APCH TO ALLOW MORE SPACING FOR A CARGO B727 TO TAKE OFF IN FRONT OF HIM. THE TWR CLRED THE B727 PRIOR TO IT REACHING THE RWY SO IT TOOK LONGER THAN THE TWR ESTIMATED FOR THE B727 TO ACTUALLY TAKE OFF AND CLR THE RWY.
Narrative: ON DEC/XA/98 AT APPROX XA50 WE WERE CLRED FOR ILS RWY 22 BY ROC APCH. WE WERE #2 WITH NO OTHER TFC BEHIND US. SPACING BTWN OUR ACFT AND B737 WAS APPROX 4 MI ON TCASII. WE WERE ASKED BY ROC APCH TO SLOW TO 170 KTS FOR TFC IN FRONT OF US. SINCE WE GAINED ANOTHER APPROX 1.5 MI ON ACR, ROC APCH ASKED US AGAIN TO SLOW FURTHER DOWN TO 150 KTS. SPACING WAS STILL TOO TIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE WERE IN VISUAL CONTACT WITH ACR TFC, AND THE ARPT AND RWY 22. SINCE THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC BEHIND US, I SLOWED FURTHER DOWN TO 140 KTS AND 130 KTS. THEN WE WERE HANDED OFF TO THE TWR. WE CALLED THE TWR AND SAID 'ROC TWR ON ILS 22' AND TWR REPLIED, '#2 FOR LNDG ONE DEP BEFORE YOU, CONTINUE.' WE NOTICED ACFT Y APPROX 500 FT FROM THE RWY 22 HOLD SHORT LINE ON TXWY C WAS CLRED FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF. WE ALSO NOTICED ACFT Y STARTED TO TAXI AT A VERY SLOW TAXI SPD. SINCE WE WERE VMC AND WE TRIED VERY HARD TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE TWR BUT HE WAS TOO BUSY TALKING TO ACFT Y IN EFFORT TO GET HIM TO MOVE OR TAXI FASTER DUE TO LNDG TFC 'US.' AT THIS TIME I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION TO EITHER GO AROUND, OR DO S-TURNS TO GAIN TIME AND LET THE TWR KNOW I WAS UNABLE TO REACH THE TWR. SINCE I THOUGHT MISSED APCH WILL PUT US IN TKOF PATH AND CREATE CONFLICT, I STARTED 1 S-TURN AND ACFT Y WAS OVER THE RWY NUMBERS AND ADDING PWR. I HAD APPROX 1.5 MI TO THE RWY. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THE TWR AS TO WHY I TOOK THAT KIND OF ACTION. IN MY OPINION, THE TWR SHOULDN'T HAVE CLRED THE ACR Y FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.