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Attributes | |
ACN | 424180 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 1125 |
ASRS Report | 424180 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Arriving from maui at XA00 on sadie 6 arrival, we were to land to the west due to reduced ceilings and visibility at lax with a 6 KT tailwind (normally land east at XA00). On downwind north of airport, approach controller reported the south complex was decreasing (less than CAT I). We were cleared ILS runway 24L. My traffic was (I believe) an air carrier heavy on final. As I turned base, approach was normal. At 500 ft AGL captain called 500 ft, final flaps 30 degrees. I reported and he confirmed. I looked down the full length of runway 24L and runway was clear (good visibility). Suddenly I noticed a small aircraft sitting on the numbers 24L. (Could have been a commuter or cpr, I don't know from my view -- all dark except for what appeared as almost 'wig-wag' lights at wingtips.) I made an immediate go around. The aircraft was very difficult to see with the bright lead-in lights, end lights, etc. We had been cleared to land by the tower 'normally.' no mention of any aircraft in position prior to our arrival. I am submitting this NASA report not to point blame (I have been there too!), but in light of the accident on runway 24L several yrs ago landing on top of an aircraft in position (intersection although, I believe). We must investigate how the 'system' failed today. Had the visibility been as low as runway 25L (CAT ii or CAT III), we might have had a serious accident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: pilot stated the aircraft holding in position was an air carrier B757. The tower was staffed for single controller operations for both the north and south side. The south side WX had just gone to CAT ii or CAT III. The tower controller workload was high due to this. After the go around the tower controller would not talk about the incident over the radio. After landing the ground controller told the crew that the B757 was cleared into position, and then they just forgot about him. Pilot group safety was notified. They discovered that no FAA inquiry was in progress. There was a similar incident at lga. The pilot thinks the system should be fixed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW MADE A GAR WHEN THEY SPOTTED AN ACFT HOLDING IN POS ON THE RWY THEY WERE CLRED TO LAND ON.
Narrative: ARRIVING FROM MAUI AT XA00 ON SADIE 6 ARR, WE WERE TO LAND TO THE W DUE TO REDUCED CEILINGS AND VISIBILITY AT LAX WITH A 6 KT TAILWIND (NORMALLY LAND E AT XA00). ON DOWNWIND N OF ARPT, APCH CTLR RPTED THE S COMPLEX WAS DECREASING (LESS THAN CAT I). WE WERE CLRED ILS RWY 24L. MY TFC WAS (I BELIEVE) AN ACR HVY ON FINAL. AS I TURNED BASE, APCH WAS NORMAL. AT 500 FT AGL CAPT CALLED 500 FT, FINAL FLAPS 30 DEGS. I RPTED AND HE CONFIRMED. I LOOKED DOWN THE FULL LENGTH OF RWY 24L AND RWY WAS CLR (GOOD VISIBILITY). SUDDENLY I NOTICED A SMALL ACFT SITTING ON THE NUMBERS 24L. (COULD HAVE BEEN A COMMUTER OR CPR, I DON'T KNOW FROM MY VIEW -- ALL DARK EXCEPT FOR WHAT APPEARED AS ALMOST 'WIG-WAG' LIGHTS AT WINGTIPS.) I MADE AN IMMEDIATE GAR. THE ACFT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE WITH THE BRIGHT LEAD-IN LIGHTS, END LIGHTS, ETC. WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO LAND BY THE TWR 'NORMALLY.' NO MENTION OF ANY ACFT IN POS PRIOR TO OUR ARR. I AM SUBMITTING THIS NASA RPT NOT TO POINT BLAME (I HAVE BEEN THERE TOO!), BUT IN LIGHT OF THE ACCIDENT ON RWY 24L SEVERAL YRS AGO LNDG ON TOP OF AN ACFT IN POS (INTXN ALTHOUGH, I BELIEVE). WE MUST INVESTIGATE HOW THE 'SYS' FAILED TODAY. HAD THE VISIBILITY BEEN AS LOW AS RWY 25L (CAT II OR CAT III), WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A SERIOUS ACCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: PLT STATED THE ACFT HOLDING IN POS WAS AN ACR B757. THE TWR WAS STAFFED FOR SINGLE CTLR OPS FOR BOTH THE N AND S SIDE. THE S SIDE WX HAD JUST GONE TO CAT II OR CAT III. THE TWR CTLR WORKLOAD WAS HIGH DUE TO THIS. AFTER THE GAR THE TWR CTLR WOULD NOT TALK ABOUT THE INCIDENT OVER THE RADIO. AFTER LNDG THE GND CTLR TOLD THE CREW THAT THE B757 WAS CLRED INTO POS, AND THEN THEY JUST FORGOT ABOUT HIM. PLT GROUP SAFETY WAS NOTIFIED. THEY DISCOVERED THAT NO FAA INQUIRY WAS IN PROGRESS. THERE WAS A SIMILAR INCIDENT AT LGA. THE PLT THINKS THE SYS SHOULD BE FIXED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.