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Attributes | |
ACN | 427308 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gso.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Windshear Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hef |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll landing : hold short |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 427308 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft with CFI and student pilot on board was returning to gso from local area flight. Aircraft accepted clearance to land on runway 14 and hold short of runway 23. Student pilot acknowledged clearance. However, CFI missed instructions to 'land and hold short' due to unknown reasons/distrs normally associated with training environment (use of intercom, other xmissions). Student flew aircraft to short final approach, misjudged altitude and aircraft was slightly above normal GS and at higher than normal approach speed. At about 100 ft AGL near approach end of runway 14, the CFI advised the tower that they would be 'landing long' or something to that effect. No acknowledgement was received from the tower. The CFI was still unaware of the 'land and hold short' restr and the student pilot made no comment regarding clearance. Turbulence, xwinds, and vertical up-/downdrafts added to the workload. The aircraft was landed and rolled through the intersection of runways 14 and 23 then turned to clear the runway at the first turnoff to the right past runway 23. The CFI notified the tower that the aircraft was clear the runways and requested to taxi to the FBO. The tower then advised the CFI/student of the situation, ie, exceeding the clearance restr. No traffic conflicts were experienced (fortunately). Contributing factors: CFI missed lahso clearance/advisory due to possible distrs related to instruction. Student did not mention restr to CFI. Although CFI advised tower of intent to 'land long,' no response/advisory, etc was received from the tower until after landing rollout with aircraft on taxiway. Strong/gusty winds (and crosswind) added to workload. Xmissions overheard during landing rollout were broken up and may have indicated reception problems. However, student pilot had knowledge of restr -- CFI did not. Corrective actions: CFI and student pilot had in-depth discussion of event contributing factors, and possible preventive measures to preclude similar recurrences. CFI requested discussion with ATC controller, visited facility, and subsequently discussed the situation/contributing factors and corrective measure in depth.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT, WITH STUDENT FLYING, FAILED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY INTXN AFTER LNDG DUE TO LONG LNDG BY STUDENT AND THE INSTRUCTOR NOT HEARING THE LAHSO IN THE LNDG CLRNC.
Narrative: ACFT WITH CFI AND STUDENT PLT ON BOARD WAS RETURNING TO GSO FROM LCL AREA FLT. ACFT ACCEPTED CLRNC TO LAND ON RWY 14 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 23. STUDENT PLT ACKNOWLEDGED CLRNC. HOWEVER, CFI MISSED INSTRUCTIONS TO 'LAND AND HOLD SHORT' DUE TO UNKNOWN REASONS/DISTRS NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH TRAINING ENVIRONMENT (USE OF INTERCOM, OTHER XMISSIONS). STUDENT FLEW ACFT TO SHORT FINAL APCH, MISJUDGED ALT AND ACFT WAS SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL GS AND AT HIGHER THAN NORMAL APCH SPD. AT ABOUT 100 FT AGL NEAR APCH END OF RWY 14, THE CFI ADVISED THE TWR THAT THEY WOULD BE 'LNDG LONG' OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WAS RECEIVED FROM THE TWR. THE CFI WAS STILL UNAWARE OF THE 'LAND AND HOLD SHORT' RESTR AND THE STUDENT PLT MADE NO COMMENT REGARDING CLRNC. TURB, XWINDS, AND VERT UP-/DOWNDRAFTS ADDED TO THE WORKLOAD. THE ACFT WAS LANDED AND ROLLED THROUGH THE INTXN OF RWYS 14 AND 23 THEN TURNED TO CLR THE RWY AT THE FIRST TURNOFF TO THE R PAST RWY 23. THE CFI NOTIFIED THE TWR THAT THE ACFT WAS CLR THE RWYS AND REQUESTED TO TAXI TO THE FBO. THE TWR THEN ADVISED THE CFI/STUDENT OF THE SIT, IE, EXCEEDING THE CLRNC RESTR. NO TFC CONFLICTS WERE EXPERIENCED (FORTUNATELY). CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: CFI MISSED LAHSO CLRNC/ADVISORY DUE TO POSSIBLE DISTRS RELATED TO INSTRUCTION. STUDENT DID NOT MENTION RESTR TO CFI. ALTHOUGH CFI ADVISED TWR OF INTENT TO 'LAND LONG,' NO RESPONSE/ADVISORY, ETC WAS RECEIVED FROM THE TWR UNTIL AFTER LNDG ROLLOUT WITH ACFT ON TXWY. STRONG/GUSTY WINDS (AND XWIND) ADDED TO WORKLOAD. XMISSIONS OVERHEARD DURING LNDG ROLLOUT WERE BROKEN UP AND MAY HAVE INDICATED RECEPTION PROBS. HOWEVER, STUDENT PLT HAD KNOWLEDGE OF RESTR -- CFI DID NOT. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: CFI AND STUDENT PLT HAD IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION OF EVENT CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, AND POSSIBLE PREVENTIVE MEASURES TO PRECLUDE SIMILAR RECURRENCES. CFI REQUESTED DISCUSSION WITH ATC CTLR, VISITED FACILITY, AND SUBSEQUENTLY DISCUSSED THE SIT/CONTRIBUTING FACTORS AND CORRECTIVE MEASURE IN DEPTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.