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Attributes | |
ACN | 427463 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5100 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 427463 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 350 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Took off (X) behind a company 30-seat turboprop (Y) told to maintain visual separation. On the climb out, we were both given the same vector. Initially the other aircraft was to my left at about 10 O'clock position at 700 ft higher than I was and parallel courses (both planes TCASII equipped). I told my first officer to lower the nose and decrease our climb rate to keep the other aircraft above us. Departure controller also told me to maintain visual separation with other aircraft, then he vectored other plane towards me. And even though other plane was above us, the airplane descended towards us (possibly based on his TCASII information being inaccurate). We got a TA on our TCASII at this point so we increased our climb rate dramatically. The other plane passed directly underneath us at about 300-400 ft. Although I had the other aircraft in sight from takeoff until the near miss, I couldn't anticipate an aircraft, at 10 O'clock position and 700 ft above me, turning towards me and descending towards me. Prior to the turn towards me, the other aircraft reported having me in sight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLE TRACON DEP CTLR TURNS ACR ON L PARALLEL RADAR VECTOR INTO OTHER ACR. SECOND ACR RPTED ACR TO HIS L IN SIGHT, BUT IS REQUIRED TO TAKE TCASII EVASIVE ACTION AS OTHER ACR TURNS INTO FLT PATH, DSNDING SLIGHTLY.
Narrative: TOOK OFF (X) BEHIND A COMPANY 30-SEAT TURBOPROP (Y) TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. ON THE CLBOUT, WE WERE BOTH GIVEN THE SAME VECTOR. INITIALLY THE OTHER ACFT WAS TO MY L AT ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK POS AT 700 FT HIGHER THAN I WAS AND PARALLEL COURSES (BOTH PLANES TCASII EQUIPPED). I TOLD MY FO TO LOWER THE NOSE AND DECREASE OUR CLB RATE TO KEEP THE OTHER ACFT ABOVE US. DEP CTLR ALSO TOLD ME TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION WITH OTHER ACFT, THEN HE VECTORED OTHER PLANE TOWARDS ME. AND EVEN THOUGH OTHER PLANE WAS ABOVE US, THE AIRPLANE DSNDED TOWARDS US (POSSIBLY BASED ON HIS TCASII INFO BEING INACCURATE). WE GOT A TA ON OUR TCASII AT THIS POINT SO WE INCREASED OUR CLB RATE DRAMATICALLY. THE OTHER PLANE PASSED DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH US AT ABOUT 300-400 FT. ALTHOUGH I HAD THE OTHER ACFT IN SIGHT FROM TKOF UNTIL THE NEAR MISS, I COULDN'T ANTICIPATE AN ACFT, AT 10 O'CLOCK POS AND 700 FT ABOVE ME, TURNING TOWARDS ME AND DSNDING TOWARDS ME. PRIOR TO THE TURN TOWARDS ME, THE OTHER ACFT RPTED HAVING ME IN SIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.