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Attributes | |
ACN | 427713 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lhs |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
ASRS Report | 427713 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
A third aircraft was involved, an SF34 (aircraft Z). I descended the SF34 from 11000 ft to 8000 ft and the E120 (aircraft X) read back and commenced the descent. I missed the readback. I was focused on an untagged target that was traffic for the SF34 and another traffic situation on my scope. As I was scanning my scope, I observed the E120 (aircraft X) in a descent that would conflict head-on with the PA28 (aircraft Y). I 'broke in' to the frequency and took evasive action with the E120 (aircraft X) and the PA28 (aircraft Y). At no time did the conflict alert activate. It is unknown if the E120 (aircraft X) received a TCASII resolution. I called my supervisor and alerted him to the situation. I was relieved of duties and an investigation was started. There were no other witnesses besides myself and I never stated that I lost IFR separation. Based upon the audio tape, the situation was and is classified as an operational error. With our new ARTS 3E equipment, there is no longer the capability to perform a data resolution or actually chart the aircraft. My facility tried to demonstrate that I did not lose IFR separation, however, the western pacific regional office refused to overturn because we could not 'prove' beyond a 'shadow of a doubt' that we did not lose IFR separation. This ruling against me -- also really anyone else that could be caught in a similar situation -- defies all logic! Could someone please investigate?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR ISSUED A DSCNT CLRNC TO ACFT Z. ACFT X READ BACK CLRNC AND STARTED DSCNT, WHICH NOW BECAME TFC FOR ACFT Y. CTLR MISSED THE READBACK FROM WRONG ACFT. LATER, CTLR ATTEMPTED TO SEPARATE ACFT X FROM ACFT Y, TOO LATE, LOST LEGAL SEPARATION.
Narrative: A THIRD ACFT WAS INVOLVED, AN SF34 (ACFT Z). I DSNDED THE SF34 FROM 11000 FT TO 8000 FT AND THE E120 (ACFT X) READ BACK AND COMMENCED THE DSCNT. I MISSED THE READBACK. I WAS FOCUSED ON AN UNTAGGED TARGET THAT WAS TFC FOR THE SF34 AND ANOTHER TFC SIT ON MY SCOPE. AS I WAS SCANNING MY SCOPE, I OBSERVED THE E120 (ACFT X) IN A DSCNT THAT WOULD CONFLICT HEAD-ON WITH THE PA28 (ACFT Y). I 'BROKE IN' TO THE FREQ AND TOOK EVASIVE ACTION WITH THE E120 (ACFT X) AND THE PA28 (ACFT Y). AT NO TIME DID THE CONFLICT ALERT ACTIVATE. IT IS UNKNOWN IF THE E120 (ACFT X) RECEIVED A TCASII RESOLUTION. I CALLED MY SUPVR AND ALERTED HIM TO THE SIT. I WAS RELIEVED OF DUTIES AND AN INVESTIGATION WAS STARTED. THERE WERE NO OTHER WITNESSES BESIDES MYSELF AND I NEVER STATED THAT I LOST IFR SEPARATION. BASED UPON THE AUDIO TAPE, THE SIT WAS AND IS CLASSIFIED AS AN OPERROR. WITH OUR NEW ARTS 3E EQUIP, THERE IS NO LONGER THE CAPABILITY TO PERFORM A DATA RESOLUTION OR ACTUALLY CHART THE ACFT. MY FACILITY TRIED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT I DID NOT LOSE IFR SEPARATION, HOWEVER, THE WESTERN PACIFIC REGIONAL OFFICE REFUSED TO OVERTURN BECAUSE WE COULD NOT 'PROVE' BEYOND A 'SHADOW OF A DOUBT' THAT WE DID NOT LOSE IFR SEPARATION. THIS RULING AGAINST ME -- ALSO REALLY ANYONE ELSE THAT COULD BE CAUGHT IN A SIMILAR SIT -- DEFIES ALL LOGIC! COULD SOMEONE PLEASE INVESTIGATE?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.