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Attributes | |
ACN | 428727 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | BAe 146 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 428727 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 18800 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 429036 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During our departure from hdn to den we violated our ATC route clearance as it was given to us initially on the ground at hdn. In retrospect, it seems the confusion existed because of a discrepancy of interpretation of the original clearance between the captain and first officer. While taxiing for departure at hdn, the first officer received the clearance from ZDV on one radio while the captain was monitoring local unicom for traffic on the other radio. The WX was VFR (8000 ft at 10 mi) and there were 2 other inbound aircraft. One aircraft had canceled IFR and was on an 8 mi final for runway 10 (our departure runway) and the other was farther out still with center. Our clearance was given to che VOR only at 10000 ft with a void time in about 4 mins. When the first officer came back from receiving the ATC clearance we finished the remaining checklists in an effort to make our void time ahead of the traffic on final and departed runway 10 with a right turn to the che VOR. Our failure was in falling into the age old trap of being hurried for departure and not properly reviewing the ATC clearance as it was received. While the first officer had received the clearance of the 'che VOR only' the captain had assumed the clearance to be 'as filed' and 'on course.' once airborne and reaching the che VOR, the question was raised by the first officer, who was flying, of where we were cleared to and the captain responded with 'on course' which was a right turn eastbound for the den arrival rather than a left turn wbound to hold at the che VOR. When questioned by ZDV as to our position and course, an immediate left turn back to the che VOR was given with some subsequent vectors and eventual climb before being cleared on course for the den arrival.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIRLINE BA46 FLC EXCEEDED THEIR CLRNC LIMIT DURING A DEP BECAUSE OF A LACK OF COM BTWN THE CREW.
Narrative: DURING OUR DEP FROM HDN TO DEN WE VIOLATED OUR ATC RTE CLRNC AS IT WAS GIVEN TO US INITIALLY ON THE GND AT HDN. IN RETROSPECT, IT SEEMS THE CONFUSION EXISTED BECAUSE OF A DISCREPANCY OF INTERP OF THE ORIGINAL CLRNC BTWN THE CAPT AND FO. WHILE TAXIING FOR DEP AT HDN, THE FO RECEIVED THE CLRNC FROM ZDV ON ONE RADIO WHILE THE CAPT WAS MONITORING LCL UNICOM FOR TFC ON THE OTHER RADIO. THE WX WAS VFR (8000 FT AT 10 MI) AND THERE WERE 2 OTHER INBOUND ACFT. ONE ACFT HAD CANCELED IFR AND WAS ON AN 8 MI FINAL FOR RWY 10 (OUR DEP RWY) AND THE OTHER WAS FARTHER OUT STILL WITH CTR. OUR CLRNC WAS GIVEN TO CHE VOR ONLY AT 10000 FT WITH A VOID TIME IN ABOUT 4 MINS. WHEN THE FO CAME BACK FROM RECEIVING THE ATC CLRNC WE FINISHED THE REMAINING CHKLISTS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE OUR VOID TIME AHEAD OF THE TFC ON FINAL AND DEPARTED RWY 10 WITH A R TURN TO THE CHE VOR. OUR FAILURE WAS IN FALLING INTO THE AGE OLD TRAP OF BEING HURRIED FOR DEP AND NOT PROPERLY REVIEWING THE ATC CLRNC AS IT WAS RECEIVED. WHILE THE FO HAD RECEIVED THE CLRNC OF THE 'CHE VOR ONLY' THE CAPT HAD ASSUMED THE CLRNC TO BE 'AS FILED' AND 'ON COURSE.' ONCE AIRBORNE AND REACHING THE CHE VOR, THE QUESTION WAS RAISED BY THE FO, WHO WAS FLYING, OF WHERE WE WERE CLRED TO AND THE CAPT RESPONDED WITH 'ON COURSE' WHICH WAS A R TURN EBOUND FOR THE DEN ARR RATHER THAN A L TURN WBOUND TO HOLD AT THE CHE VOR. WHEN QUESTIONED BY ZDV AS TO OUR POS AND COURSE, AN IMMEDIATE L TURN BACK TO THE CHE VOR WAS GIVEN WITH SOME SUBSEQUENT VECTORS AND EVENTUAL CLB BEFORE BEING CLRED ON COURSE FOR THE DEN ARR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.