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Attributes | |
ACN | 429550 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | agl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 22l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 429550 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter other non adherence : far non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Cabin Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Cabin Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When first officer contacted local controller at approximately 3 mi from runway, the controller instructed us to go around. I told first officer to tell him we were unable to go around due to a minimum fuel situation. We had 6000 pounds of fuel and I felt this was not enough to be put back in line and possibly burn 2000-3000 more pounds of fuel. The first officer told the controller we had the traffic ahead in sight (a B757) and were at minimum fuel. The controller didn't respond and we confirmed at 3000 ft AGL that we were cleared to land. The B757 was well clear of the runway. While taxiing in, we were instructed to contact the tower. I spoke with a supervisor and learned that the announcement of minimum fuel means something different to a local controller than to pilots. If fuel had been critical, I would declare an emergency, but we were trying to avoid that point by declaring minimum fuel. Our planned fuel at destination was 12700 pounds. We held for 45 mins at tyi and were slowed down by approach control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PART 121 FLC DECLARES MINIMUM FUEL AS CTLR DIRECTS GAR AT EWR.
Narrative: WHEN FO CONTACTED LCL CTLR AT APPROX 3 MI FROM RWY, THE CTLR INSTRUCTED US TO GO AROUND. I TOLD FO TO TELL HIM WE WERE UNABLE TO GO AROUND DUE TO A MINIMUM FUEL SIT. WE HAD 6000 LBS OF FUEL AND I FELT THIS WAS NOT ENOUGH TO BE PUT BACK IN LINE AND POSSIBLY BURN 2000-3000 MORE LBS OF FUEL. THE FO TOLD THE CTLR WE HAD THE TFC AHEAD IN SIGHT (A B757) AND WERE AT MINIMUM FUEL. THE CTLR DIDN'T RESPOND AND WE CONFIRMED AT 3000 FT AGL THAT WE WERE CLRED TO LAND. THE B757 WAS WELL CLR OF THE RWY. WHILE TAXIING IN, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT THE TWR. I SPOKE WITH A SUPVR AND LEARNED THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF MINIMUM FUEL MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO A LCL CTLR THAN TO PLTS. IF FUEL HAD BEEN CRITICAL, I WOULD DECLARE AN EMER, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID THAT POINT BY DECLARING MINIMUM FUEL. OUR PLANNED FUEL AT DEST WAS 12700 LBS. WE HELD FOR 45 MINS AT TYI AND WERE SLOWED DOWN BY APCH CTL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.