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Attributes | |
ACN | 429993 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ito.airport |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ito.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | arrival other departure : noise abatement departure other departure sid : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 429993 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
On IFR departure several TCASII targets appeared as we turned to heading 350 degrees to intercept V15 (310 degree radial). The first target was not a conflict, passing well to our left. As we climbed above 1000 ft AGL, we received another TA TCASII warning. The traffic (2 closely-spaced targets) were at 12 O'clock and closing fast. They appeared to be at our altitude. We passed traffic in climb at takeoff thrust, ATC (tower) said he had 'no traffic' for us prior to our passing. When I asked him about targets approximately 2 mi ahead, the TA altitude readout was +/-200 ft (vertical) when we passed the targets. No RA ever issued. We were in moderate rain, with nose up in climb. Never saw any traffic, only evasive action was maintaining takeoff thrust to climb above. When switching to departure frequency, controller admitted 2 helicopters came quite close inbound towards airport, not working his frequency. This is class D airspace -- they were maybe outside 4 mi -- legal? But tour helicopters should be vigilant to avoid our air carrier traffic by a wider margin.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE FLC OF A B737-200 HAS TCASII TA AFTER DEP WITH TFC APPEARING TO BE AT SAME ALT. THEY CLB WITH FULL PWR TO MISS THE TFC. ATC SAYS THERE IS NO TFC. SWITCHING TO DEP CTL THEY ARE INFORMED THAT THERE WERE 2 TOUR HELIS WHO WERE NOT IN COM WITH THE TWR.
Narrative: ON IFR DEP SEVERAL TCASII TARGETS APPEARED AS WE TURNED TO HDG 350 DEGS TO INTERCEPT V15 (310 DEG RADIAL). THE FIRST TARGET WAS NOT A CONFLICT, PASSING WELL TO OUR L. AS WE CLBED ABOVE 1000 FT AGL, WE RECEIVED ANOTHER TA TCASII WARNING. THE TFC (2 CLOSELY-SPACED TARGETS) WERE AT 12 O'CLOCK AND CLOSING FAST. THEY APPEARED TO BE AT OUR ALT. WE PASSED TFC IN CLB AT TKOF THRUST, ATC (TWR) SAID HE HAD 'NO TFC' FOR US PRIOR TO OUR PASSING. WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT TARGETS APPROX 2 MI AHEAD, THE TA ALT READOUT WAS +/-200 FT (VERT) WHEN WE PASSED THE TARGETS. NO RA EVER ISSUED. WE WERE IN MODERATE RAIN, WITH NOSE UP IN CLB. NEVER SAW ANY TFC, ONLY EVASIVE ACTION WAS MAINTAINING TKOF THRUST TO CLB ABOVE. WHEN SWITCHING TO DEP FREQ, CTLR ADMITTED 2 HELIS CAME QUITE CLOSE INBOUND TOWARDS ARPT, NOT WORKING HIS FREQ. THIS IS CLASS D AIRSPACE -- THEY WERE MAYBE OUTSIDE 4 MI -- LEGAL? BUT TOUR HELIS SHOULD BE VIGILANT TO AVOID OUR ACR TFC BY A WIDER MARGIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.