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Attributes | |
ACN | 432460 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : lga eight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 432460 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Lga 8 with whitestone climb says, turn right on heading of 175 degrees (from runway 13) until lga 2.5 DME, then left turn to 040 degrees. During climb out, we went to about 4.5 DME before turning. Controller asked if we started our turn. Controller said, make right turn to 310 degrees. We had already started a left turn. We were told by the controller that we were not flying the correct departure. The controller was obviously irritated by our actions. No evasive action was made aware to us. Contributing factors: captain was working the radios and did not notice that I had overflown my mileage restr. It was only my first departure from lga. I had been online for just 2 days, as a new pilot. As a crew, we were expecting lga 8 departure with 'takeoff runway 4.' runway was changed and the new departure was unexpected, and not thoroughly reviewed. We asked the controller if we needed to call the facility. He replied, no.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DID NOT ADHERE TO PUBLISHED SID.
Narrative: LGA 8 WITH WHITESTONE CLB SAYS, TURN R ON HDG OF 175 DEGS (FROM RWY 13) UNTIL LGA 2.5 DME, THEN L TURN TO 040 DEGS. DURING CLBOUT, WE WENT TO ABOUT 4.5 DME BEFORE TURNING. CTLR ASKED IF WE STARTED OUR TURN. CTLR SAID, MAKE R TURN TO 310 DEGS. WE HAD ALREADY STARTED A L TURN. WE WERE TOLD BY THE CTLR THAT WE WERE NOT FLYING THE CORRECT DEP. THE CTLR WAS OBVIOUSLY IRRITATED BY OUR ACTIONS. NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS MADE AWARE TO US. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: CAPT WAS WORKING THE RADIOS AND DID NOT NOTICE THAT I HAD OVERFLOWN MY MILEAGE RESTR. IT WAS ONLY MY FIRST DEP FROM LGA. I HAD BEEN ONLINE FOR JUST 2 DAYS, AS A NEW PLT. AS A CREW, WE WERE EXPECTING LGA 8 DEP WITH 'TKOF RWY 4.' RWY WAS CHANGED AND THE NEW DEP WAS UNEXPECTED, AND NOT THOROUGHLY REVIEWED. WE ASKED THE CTLR IF WE NEEDED TO CALL THE FACILITY. HE REPLIED, NO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.