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Attributes | |
ACN | 432890 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ded.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dab.tracon |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other ndb |
Flight Phase | descent : holding |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dab.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 7l |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1635 flight time type : 71 |
ASRS Report | 432890 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 600 vertical : 30 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
This flight was to be a training flight for a friend's instructor certificate instrument airplane rating. I was seated in the left seat and the student in the right seat. We took off after sunset from the ormond beach airport in C152. We contacted daytona beach approach control and requested a local IFR clearance. Approach asked us if we could proceed VFR, due to workload. Since VFR conditions prevailed, we replied 'yes.' WX was about 6 mi visibility in slight haze and a dark VFR night. Under VFR advisories from daytona approach, we requested holding over deland NDB followed by the NDB 30 approach to deland airport. We were issued holding instructions, hold southeast of deland, 314 degree course to, expect further clearance XX45Z. At approximately XX30Z apr/xa/99, we were outbound in the holding pattern in a southeast direction at 2500 ft. Daytona reported traffic about 1 mi west of our position at 2500 ft. I reported the traffic in sight. The aircraft (C172) was traveling in a northwest direction away from us and appeared to be no factor. We turned inbound in the holding pattern at 2500 ft, now in a northwest direction. We proceeded to try and track inbound and discussed if we were on course. As we crossed the station, my student started a standard rate turn to the right for the outbound leg of holding. I observed the other aircraft's C172 green navigation light and landing light at about my 10 O'clock position. I took control of my aircraft and increased the bank and started a descent. I leveled off at 2100 ft approximately, on a heading of 030 degrees and searched for the other aircraft C172. I observed the aircraft behind and to my right so I started to climb back to assigned altitude and turn to continue the holding pattern. C172 was not issued a radio call to notify them that we were holding over deland at 2500 ft, or to our position. C172 was under VFR advisories from daytona approach executing the 18 DME to the ILS runway 7L at daytona beach airport. C172 was off my left where my view is partially obscured by the windscreen frame and airframe. The dark conditions, aircraft position, pilot view, controller workload and not aware of our intentions holding over deland contributed to this event. See diagrams.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT IN A C152 TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT FROM HIS INST INSTRUCTOR TRAINEE, DURING A PRACTICE HOLDING PATTERN, TO AVOID A C172 ON A DME ARC FOR AN ILS TO AN ADJACENT ARPT. THE RPTR IN THE C152 WAS RECEIVING TA'S, BUT NOT UNDER IFR CTL.
Narrative: THIS FLT WAS TO BE A TRAINING FLT FOR A FRIEND'S INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATE INST AIRPLANE RATING. I WAS SEATED IN THE L SEAT AND THE STUDENT IN THE R SEAT. WE TOOK OFF AFTER SUNSET FROM THE ORMOND BEACH ARPT IN C152. WE CONTACTED DAYTONA BEACH APCH CTL AND REQUESTED A LCL IFR CLRNC. APCH ASKED US IF WE COULD PROCEED VFR, DUE TO WORKLOAD. SINCE VFR CONDITIONS PREVAILED, WE REPLIED 'YES.' WX WAS ABOUT 6 MI VISIBILITY IN SLIGHT HAZE AND A DARK VFR NIGHT. UNDER VFR ADVISORIES FROM DAYTONA APCH, WE REQUESTED HOLDING OVER DELAND NDB FOLLOWED BY THE NDB 30 APCH TO DELAND ARPT. WE WERE ISSUED HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS, HOLD SE OF DELAND, 314 DEG COURSE TO, EXPECT FURTHER CLRNC XX45Z. AT APPROX XX30Z APR/XA/99, WE WERE OUTBOUND IN THE HOLDING PATTERN IN A SE DIRECTION AT 2500 FT. DAYTONA RPTED TFC ABOUT 1 MI W OF OUR POS AT 2500 FT. I RPTED THE TFC IN SIGHT. THE ACFT (C172) WAS TRAVELING IN A NW DIRECTION AWAY FROM US AND APPEARED TO BE NO FACTOR. WE TURNED INBOUND IN THE HOLDING PATTERN AT 2500 FT, NOW IN A NW DIRECTION. WE PROCEEDED TO TRY AND TRACK INBOUND AND DISCUSSED IF WE WERE ON COURSE. AS WE CROSSED THE STATION, MY STUDENT STARTED A STANDARD RATE TURN TO THE R FOR THE OUTBOUND LEG OF HOLDING. I OBSERVED THE OTHER ACFT'S C172 GREEN NAV LIGHT AND LNDG LIGHT AT ABOUT MY 10 O'CLOCK POS. I TOOK CTL OF MY ACFT AND INCREASED THE BANK AND STARTED A DSCNT. I LEVELED OFF AT 2100 FT APPROX, ON A HDG OF 030 DEGS AND SEARCHED FOR THE OTHER ACFT C172. I OBSERVED THE ACFT BEHIND AND TO MY R SO I STARTED TO CLB BACK TO ASSIGNED ALT AND TURN TO CONTINUE THE HOLDING PATTERN. C172 WAS NOT ISSUED A RADIO CALL TO NOTIFY THEM THAT WE WERE HOLDING OVER DELAND AT 2500 FT, OR TO OUR POS. C172 WAS UNDER VFR ADVISORIES FROM DAYTONA APCH EXECUTING THE 18 DME TO THE ILS RWY 7L AT DAYTONA BEACH ARPT. C172 WAS OFF MY L WHERE MY VIEW IS PARTIALLY OBSCURED BY THE WINDSCREEN FRAME AND AIRFRAME. THE DARK CONDITIONS, ACFT POS, PLT VIEW, CTLR WORKLOAD AND NOT AWARE OF OUR INTENTIONS HOLDING OVER DELAND CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EVENT. SEE DIAGRAMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.