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Attributes | |
ACN | 433530 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : o'hare one |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 433530 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight departed late and takeoff weight was critical due to tailwinds on some runways and inadequate length on others. As we taxied out, we were assigned runway 32R, which we were not certain we could use. Crew had discussed that if our weight allowed the runway to be used, we would need to inform ATC we could not adhere to the SID crossing altitudes. We also discussed our taxi route, should our final weight not allow us to use runway 32R. As we approached the runway, we found our weight had dropped enough to use runway 32R. We were #2 for takeoff. We completed the checklist and departed. On climb out, departure asked if we were going to comply with the SID crossing altitudes. Then I remembered that we had forgot to inform ATC of this. There was no conflict. Although our workload was high, this should not have been overlooked. Next time when the issue is discussed, a call to ATC should be made at the same time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747 CREW WAS UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH SID ALT CONSTRAINTS.
Narrative: FLT DEPARTED LATE AND TKOF WT WAS CRITICAL DUE TO TAILWINDS ON SOME RWYS AND INADEQUATE LENGTH ON OTHERS. AS WE TAXIED OUT, WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 32R, WHICH WE WERE NOT CERTAIN WE COULD USE. CREW HAD DISCUSSED THAT IF OUR WT ALLOWED THE RWY TO BE USED, WE WOULD NEED TO INFORM ATC WE COULD NOT ADHERE TO THE SID XING ALTS. WE ALSO DISCUSSED OUR TAXI RTE, SHOULD OUR FINAL WT NOT ALLOW US TO USE RWY 32R. AS WE APCHED THE RWY, WE FOUND OUR WT HAD DROPPED ENOUGH TO USE RWY 32R. WE WERE #2 FOR TKOF. WE COMPLETED THE CHKLIST AND DEPARTED. ON CLBOUT, DEP ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE SID XING ALTS. THEN I REMEMBERED THAT WE HAD FORGOT TO INFORM ATC OF THIS. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. ALTHOUGH OUR WORKLOAD WAS HIGH, THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED. NEXT TIME WHEN THE ISSUE IS DISCUSSED, A CALL TO ATC SHOULD BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.