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Attributes | |
ACN | 433843 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ttt.vor |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-90 Series (DC-9-90) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 92 flight time total : 3275 flight time type : 280 |
ASRS Report | 433843 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 434396 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : altitude alert other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After departing dfw to aus, during climb out there was a line of developing thunderstorms south of the dfw area. We were originally assigned FL220. In order to avoid the developing clouds/thunderstorms, we requested deviation right of our assigned 210 degree heading to intercept the joe pool departure, windu transition. In order to avoid a lengthy (40-50 mi) west heading deviation, we requested FL250 or FL260 to go over the developing line of tower cumulus clouds. We were given FL230 and a frequency change. With the new controller we requested FL250 or FL260. We were assigned FL240. FL240 was set into the altitude window and verified by both crew members both verbally and visually by pointing. I then went down to operate the WX radar. I saw the altitude alert light extinguished as we approached FL240. I also thought the PF was controling the autoplt and assured the aircraft leveled at FL240. Shortly thereafter, I heard the altitude alert tone. I looked up and saw we were passing through FL242.5. I told the captain we were only cleared to FL240, while looking up and seeing FL250 in the altitude window. I said 'no, I answered clearance only to FL240.' he said, 'but the window says FL250.' I convinced him to descend to FL240 until we could get verification of the assigned altitude. The controller, when asked 'to verify cleared to FL250' said 'no, cleared only to FL240 but now cleared to FL250.' we had climbed to about FL245 then descended back to FL242 before being cleared to FL250. We could not figure out how FL250 got into the window. This was our 5TH leg flying together and we always verified the altitude window setting. An explanation came as we made our approach into aus. We were assigned 3000 ft as we descended into aus being vectored to runway 13R. As we were leveling at 3000 ft (passing around 3200 ft) we received visual approach clearance, looked up and saw the altitude window had changed to 4000 ft by itself. It became apparent that the altitude alert had changed both times by itself. We also found that it had a 'dead spot' where changing it 1000 ft click, the altitude would not change. We both wrote up the altitude alert in the logbook for maintenance action to correct the roaming and dead spot.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC RPTS THAT THE ALT ALERTER IN THEIR MD90 ACFT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGING THE SET ALT BY ITSELF WITH NO OTHER INPUT FROM CREW.
Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING DFW TO AUS, DURING CLBOUT THERE WAS A LINE OF DEVELOPING TSTMS S OF THE DFW AREA. WE WERE ORIGINALLY ASSIGNED FL220. IN ORDER TO AVOID THE DEVELOPING CLOUDS/TSTMS, WE REQUESTED DEV R OF OUR ASSIGNED 210 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT THE JOE POOL DEP, WINDU TRANSITION. IN ORDER TO AVOID A LENGTHY (40-50 MI) W HDG DEV, WE REQUESTED FL250 OR FL260 TO GO OVER THE DEVELOPING LINE OF TWR CUMULUS CLOUDS. WE WERE GIVEN FL230 AND A FREQ CHANGE. WITH THE NEW CTLR WE REQUESTED FL250 OR FL260. WE WERE ASSIGNED FL240. FL240 WAS SET INTO THE ALT WINDOW AND VERIFIED BY BOTH CREW MEMBERS BOTH VERBALLY AND VISUALLY BY POINTING. I THEN WENT DOWN TO OPERATE THE WX RADAR. I SAW THE ALT ALERT LIGHT EXTINGUISHED AS WE APCHED FL240. I ALSO THOUGHT THE PF WAS CTLING THE AUTOPLT AND ASSURED THE ACFT LEVELED AT FL240. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I HEARD THE ALT ALERT TONE. I LOOKED UP AND SAW WE WERE PASSING THROUGH FL242.5. I TOLD THE CAPT WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO FL240, WHILE LOOKING UP AND SEEING FL250 IN THE ALT WINDOW. I SAID 'NO, I ANSWERED CLRNC ONLY TO FL240.' HE SAID, 'BUT THE WINDOW SAYS FL250.' I CONVINCED HIM TO DSND TO FL240 UNTIL WE COULD GET VERIFICATION OF THE ASSIGNED ALT. THE CTLR, WHEN ASKED 'TO VERIFY CLRED TO FL250' SAID 'NO, CLRED ONLY TO FL240 BUT NOW CLRED TO FL250.' WE HAD CLBED TO ABOUT FL245 THEN DSNDED BACK TO FL242 BEFORE BEING CLRED TO FL250. WE COULD NOT FIGURE OUT HOW FL250 GOT INTO THE WINDOW. THIS WAS OUR 5TH LEG FLYING TOGETHER AND WE ALWAYS VERIFIED THE ALT WINDOW SETTING. AN EXPLANATION CAME AS WE MADE OUR APCH INTO AUS. WE WERE ASSIGNED 3000 FT AS WE DSNDED INTO AUS BEING VECTORED TO RWY 13R. AS WE WERE LEVELING AT 3000 FT (PASSING AROUND 3200 FT) WE RECEIVED VISUAL APCH CLRNC, LOOKED UP AND SAW THE ALT WINDOW HAD CHANGED TO 4000 FT BY ITSELF. IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THE ALT ALERT HAD CHANGED BOTH TIMES BY ITSELF. WE ALSO FOUND THAT IT HAD A 'DEAD SPOT' WHERE CHANGING IT 1000 FT CLICK, THE ALT WOULD NOT CHANGE. WE BOTH WROTE UP THE ALT ALERT IN THE LOGBOOK FOR MAINT ACTION TO CORRECT THE ROAMING AND DEAD SPOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.