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Flight crew of a C525 citation failed to turn during initial climb after takeoff as specified in SID departure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 435430 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199904 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : atl.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation I |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : lax 3. lax |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 435430 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to original clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Clearance from lax clearance delivery was lax 3 departure. We departed, were told to climb to 3000 ft, best forward speed. After switch to socal, socal says to climb to 13000 ft. Reaching the 10 DME fix, I call socal and ask 'cpr X, do you have us or do you want us on the departure route?' socal 'was that cpr X?' 'yes, sir do you want us to follow the departure route?' 'cpr X turn left 210 degrees.' '210 degrees cpr X.' socal 'are you on the lax 3 departure.' 'I was given that departure.' 'change frequency to XXX.xx.' in the initial socal reply, something like 'climb 13000 ft lax 3' would have clarified the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A C525 CITATION FAILED TO TURN DURING INITIAL CLB AFTER TKOF AS SPECIFIED IN SID DEP.
Narrative: CLRNC FROM LAX CLRNC DELIVERY WAS LAX 3 DEP. WE DEPARTED, WERE TOLD TO CLB TO 3000 FT, BEST FORWARD SPD. AFTER SWITCH TO SOCAL, SOCAL SAYS TO CLB TO 13000 FT. REACHING THE 10 DME FIX, I CALL SOCAL AND ASK 'CPR X, DO YOU HAVE US OR DO YOU WANT US ON THE DEP RTE?' SOCAL 'WAS THAT CPR X?' 'YES, SIR DO YOU WANT US TO FOLLOW THE DEP RTE?' 'CPR X TURN L 210 DEGS.' '210 DEGS CPR X.' SOCAL 'ARE YOU ON THE LAX 3 DEP.' 'I WAS GIVEN THAT DEP.' 'CHANGE FREQ TO XXX.XX.' IN THE INITIAL SOCAL REPLY, SOMETHING LIKE 'CLB 13000 FT LAX 3' WOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.