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A cargo aircraft flight engineer makes an illegal trade with another crew member and exceeds his 8 in 24 rule after departure from ind, in.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 436120 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199905 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ind.airport |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 47 flight time total : 728 flight time type : 416 |
| ASRS Report | 4436120 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the night of may/xa/99 and the morning of may/xb/99, I flew over 8 hours of scheduled commercial flight time. I was scheduled to situation reserve in ind all night. At approximately PM00 on may/xa/99 I was called to go to jfk and back to ind. When I returned to ind, I traded flts with other flight engineer. He would situation reserve for the rest of the morning, and I would take his ind-den-sfo trip. At this time I wrote down the scheduled flight times to check if it would be legal. I came up with 7 hours, and some mins -- under the 8 hour limitation. After arriving in sfo, I had logged almost 9 hours of flight time. I then recalculated the block times and discovered my error. A simple mathematical error on my part had caused me to violate an far. From now on, I will doublechk my flight times -- especially if they are close to the limits, as it was in this case.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CARGO ACFT FE MAKES AN ILLEGAL TRADE WITH ANOTHER CREW MEMBER AND EXCEEDS HIS 8 IN 24 RULE AFTER DEP FROM IND, IN.
Narrative: ON THE NIGHT OF MAY/XA/99 AND THE MORNING OF MAY/XB/99, I FLEW OVER 8 HRS OF SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL FLT TIME. I WAS SCHEDULED TO SIT RESERVE IN IND ALL NIGHT. AT APPROX PM00 ON MAY/XA/99 I WAS CALLED TO GO TO JFK AND BACK TO IND. WHEN I RETURNED TO IND, I TRADED FLTS WITH OTHER FE. HE WOULD SIT RESERVE FOR THE REST OF THE MORNING, AND I WOULD TAKE HIS IND-DEN-SFO TRIP. AT THIS TIME I WROTE DOWN THE SCHEDULED FLT TIMES TO CHK IF IT WOULD BE LEGAL. I CAME UP WITH 7 HRS, AND SOME MINS -- UNDER THE 8 HR LIMITATION. AFTER ARRIVING IN SFO, I HAD LOGGED ALMOST 9 HRS OF FLT TIME. I THEN RECALCULATED THE BLOCK TIMES AND DISCOVERED MY ERROR. A SIMPLE MATHEMATICAL ERROR ON MY PART HAD CAUSED ME TO VIOLATE AN FAR. FROM NOW ON, I WILL DOUBLECHK MY FLT TIMES -- ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE CLOSE TO THE LIMITS, AS IT WAS IN THIS CASE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.