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Attributes | |
ACN | 437849 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sli.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 5400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : vfr |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 1000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 437849 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel |
Qualification | other |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : gps other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Climbing to 4500 ft I overshot my target altitude and entered lax class b airspace. Penetration was discovered at 5400 ft and an immediate descent begun. Detection was a result of GPS alert. Factors included frequent IFR flight over the same route deferring altitude to 'as assigned,' concurrent communication with hhr FSS regarding opening of VFR flight plan which they did not have (duat forwarded it to ral FSS), preoccupation with GPS operation. Conclusion: VFR flight can be 'foreign' to IFR pilots if not done often. VFR freedom from ATC IFR routing/altitude, plus needing to open the flight plan, make VFR flight more difficult than IFR flight (in VMC).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A VFR C182 PLT CLBS INTO THE CLASS B OF SCT WHILE TALKING WITH FSS NW OF SLI, CA.
Narrative: CLBING TO 4500 FT I OVERSHOT MY TARGET ALT AND ENTERED LAX CLASS b AIRSPACE. PENETRATION WAS DISCOVERED AT 5400 FT AND AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT BEGUN. DETECTION WAS A RESULT OF GPS ALERT. FACTORS INCLUDED FREQUENT IFR FLT OVER THE SAME RTE DEFERRING ALT TO 'AS ASSIGNED,' CONCURRENT COM WITH HHR FSS REGARDING OPENING OF VFR FLT PLAN WHICH THEY DID NOT HAVE (DUAT FORWARDED IT TO RAL FSS), PREOCCUPATION WITH GPS OP. CONCLUSION: VFR FLT CAN BE 'FOREIGN' TO IFR PLTS IF NOT DONE OFTEN. VFR FREEDOM FROM ATC IFR ROUTING/ALT, PLUS NEEDING TO OPEN THE FLT PLAN, MAKE VFR FLT MORE DIFFICULT THAN IFR FLT (IN VMC).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.