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Attributes | |
ACN | 438027 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : charted visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 438027 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It was my first month on the line as a B737-300 first officer and I had never been into lga airport. We departed ord and it was the captain's leg. We had briefed an ILS to runway 13, but were told descending to 5000 ft MSL to expect a visual approach. Leveling off at 5000 ft MSL while on vectors, approach asked us if we had the 'lady,' referencing the statue of liberty. I did not have it in sight, but the captain said he did, so I reported that we had the lady in sight. The captain pointed to what he thought was the location of the statue. Meanwhile approach cleared us for the river visual which we had never prebriefed and which I had never seen. The captain took a 30 degree right turn to head for it. About 10 seconds later, approach called us and told us to turn 40 degrees to our left immediately, and asked us if we had the lady. The captain said he had the hudson bridge, and we were cleared to 4000 ft MSL to follow the river visual. Landed uneventfully. We saw the statue soon after spotting the hudson bridge. Pull out the procedure -- the river visual approach graphically describes where every landmark is located. Brief additional approachs -- especially if you've never been there before.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 FLC ACCEPTS CHARTED VISUAL APCH TO LGA WITHOUT IDENTING PROPER LANDMARK.
Narrative: IT WAS MY FIRST MONTH ON THE LINE AS A B737-300 FO AND I HAD NEVER BEEN INTO LGA ARPT. WE DEPARTED ORD AND IT WAS THE CAPT'S LEG. WE HAD BRIEFED AN ILS TO RWY 13, BUT WERE TOLD DSNDING TO 5000 FT MSL TO EXPECT A VISUAL APCH. LEVELING OFF AT 5000 FT MSL WHILE ON VECTORS, APCH ASKED US IF WE HAD THE 'LADY,' REFING THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. I DID NOT HAVE IT IN SIGHT, BUT THE CAPT SAID HE DID, SO I RPTED THAT WE HAD THE LADY IN SIGHT. THE CAPT POINTED TO WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS THE LOCATION OF THE STATUE. MEANWHILE APCH CLRED US FOR THE RIVER VISUAL WHICH WE HAD NEVER PREBRIEFED AND WHICH I HAD NEVER SEEN. THE CAPT TOOK A 30 DEG R TURN TO HEAD FOR IT. ABOUT 10 SECONDS LATER, APCH CALLED US AND TOLD US TO TURN 40 DEGS TO OUR L IMMEDIATELY, AND ASKED US IF WE HAD THE LADY. THE CAPT SAID HE HAD THE HUDSON BRIDGE, AND WE WERE CLRED TO 4000 FT MSL TO FOLLOW THE RIVER VISUAL. LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. WE SAW THE STATUE SOON AFTER SPOTTING THE HUDSON BRIDGE. PULL OUT THE PROC -- THE RIVER VISUAL APCH GRAPHICALLY DESCRIBES WHERE EVERY LANDMARK IS LOCATED. BRIEF ADDITIONAL APCHS -- ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.