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A convair 580 flight crew climbed above assigned altitude near ptk. There was some confusion caused by incomplete call signs used by dtw TRACON.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 438736 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199906 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ptk.airport |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : d21.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | CV 580 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1950 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 438736 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : d21.tracon |
Narrative:
The first officer responded to ATC with a clearance to climb. He placed 8000 ft in altitude alerter and it was verified by myself. While passing through 6500 ft ATC questioned our altitude. At that point ATC responded that our clearance was for 5000 ft and to maintain 7000 ft. No conflict was reported. While on the departure frequency I was aware of ATC not using complete call signs while talking to aircraft. In our case, ATC was not using our call sign at all times, only using our flight number. This can create a lot of confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CONVAIR 580 FLC CLBED ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT NEAR PTK. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION CAUSED BY INCOMPLETE CALL SIGNS USED BY DTW TRACON.
Narrative: THE FO RESPONDED TO ATC WITH A CLRNC TO CLB. HE PLACED 8000 FT IN ALT ALERTER AND IT WAS VERIFIED BY MYSELF. WHILE PASSING THROUGH 6500 FT ATC QUESTIONED OUR ALT. AT THAT POINT ATC RESPONDED THAT OUR CLRNC WAS FOR 5000 FT AND TO MAINTAIN 7000 FT. NO CONFLICT WAS RPTED. WHILE ON THE DEP FREQ I WAS AWARE OF ATC NOT USING COMPLETE CALL SIGNS WHILE TALKING TO ACFT. IN OUR CASE, ATC WAS NOT USING OUR CALL SIGN AT ALL TIMES, ONLY USING OUR FLT NUMBER. THIS CAN CREATE A LOT OF CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.