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Attributes | |
ACN | 439622 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tol.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3200 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tol.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils other localizer |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tol.tracon |
Make Model Name | Gates Learjet Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
ASRS Report | 439622 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 20 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were en route from dtw-tol. We were handed off to toledo approach. Approach assigned us 210 degree heading and 4000 ft. They said this would be a vector across the final for runway 25 at toledo express, because of inbound B727 traffic. We were about 2-3 mi south of the localizer for runway 25 when we received an RA on the TCASII to descend. I immediately began a rapid descent, approximately 3000 FPM. The first officer questioned approach about traffic. Their response was no traffic observed. A few seconds later approach stated traffic passing your 4 O'clock position. During this time the first officer had visual contact on a learjet passing directly over the top of us out her side window. At this time the controller said he must have departed toledo metcalf airport VFR. A min or two later, we heard this learjet call up toledo approach for a clearance. We then proceeded to the toledo express airport for a normal landing. I then contacted our chief pilot and our safety advisor for the dtw area. The chief pilot has talked with the manager of toledo approach. They said they would review the tapes to see if the learjet did violate the class C airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC. FLC OF A SAAB SF340 DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA. APCH CTLR ADVISED OF TFC, A POP UP LEARJET JUST OBSERVED PASSING RPTR'S ACFT.
Narrative: WE WERE ENRTE FROM DTW-TOL. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO TOLEDO APCH. APCH ASSIGNED US 210 DEG HDG AND 4000 FT. THEY SAID THIS WOULD BE A VECTOR ACROSS THE FINAL FOR RWY 25 AT TOLEDO EXPRESS, BECAUSE OF INBOUND B727 TFC. WE WERE ABOUT 2-3 MI S OF THE LOC FOR RWY 25 WHEN WE RECEIVED AN RA ON THE TCASII TO DSND. I IMMEDIATELY BEGAN A RAPID DSCNT, APPROX 3000 FPM. THE FO QUESTIONED APCH ABOUT TFC. THEIR RESPONSE WAS NO TFC OBSERVED. A FEW SECONDS LATER APCH STATED TFC PASSING YOUR 4 O'CLOCK POS. DURING THIS TIME THE FO HAD VISUAL CONTACT ON A LEARJET PASSING DIRECTLY OVER THE TOP OF US OUT HER SIDE WINDOW. AT THIS TIME THE CTLR SAID HE MUST HAVE DEPARTED TOLEDO METCALF ARPT VFR. A MIN OR TWO LATER, WE HEARD THIS LEARJET CALL UP TOLEDO APCH FOR A CLRNC. WE THEN PROCEEDED TO THE TOLEDO EXPRESS ARPT FOR A NORMAL LNDG. I THEN CONTACTED OUR CHIEF PLT AND OUR SAFETY ADVISOR FOR THE DTW AREA. THE CHIEF PLT HAS TALKED WITH THE MGR OF TOLEDO APCH. THEY SAID THEY WOULD REVIEW THE TAPES TO SEE IF THE LEARJET DID VIOLATE THE CLASS C AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.