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Attributes | |
ACN | 441446 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fll.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 441446 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Miss Distance | vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On climb out in IFR conditions, received an RA on TCASII. Complied with RA command, plus more, to avoid collision (within 100 ft). Many questions and concerns still prevail with regard to this occurrence. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: conversation with the reporter indicates that he was in a left turn after departure fll to the east. There were embedded thunderstorms in front of him and he requested further deviation to the left which was approved. Shortly thereafter he received a TCASII RA which indicated an extreme descent command. The reporter began the descent, but in reference to the TCASII display, he also banked the aircraft to the right. He feels that had he not initiated the bank as well as the descent, there would have been a collision with the MD80 traffic. He surmises that the traffic was climbing out of xyz at a greater rate than his aircraft, and that both aircraft were in contact with different controllers. The incident was reported to the company and they contacted the appropriate FAA facilities.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN L1011 CLBS TO AVOID AN INTRUDER AND MISSES IT BY 100 FT VERTLY.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT IN IFR CONDITIONS, RECEIVED AN RA ON TCASII. COMPLIED WITH RA COMMAND, PLUS MORE, TO AVOID COLLISION (WITHIN 100 FT). MANY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS STILL PREVAIL WITH REGARD TO THIS OCCURRENCE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: CONVERSATION WITH THE RPTR INDICATES THAT HE WAS IN A L TURN AFTER DEP FLL TO THE E. THERE WERE EMBEDDED TSTMS IN FRONT OF HIM AND HE REQUESTED FURTHER DEV TO THE L WHICH WAS APPROVED. SHORTLY THEREAFTER HE RECEIVED A TCASII RA WHICH INDICATED AN EXTREME DSCNT COMMAND. THE RPTR BEGAN THE DSCNT, BUT IN REF TO THE TCASII DISPLAY, HE ALSO BANKED THE ACFT TO THE R. HE FEELS THAT HAD HE NOT INITIATED THE BANK AS WELL AS THE DSCNT, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A COLLISION WITH THE MD80 TFC. HE SURMISES THAT THE TFC WAS CLBING OUT OF XYZ AT A GREATER RATE THAN HIS ACFT, AND THAT BOTH ACFT WERE IN CONTACT WITH DIFFERENT CTLRS. THE INCIDENT WAS RPTED TO THE COMPANY AND THEY CONTACTED THE APPROPRIATE FAA FACILITIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.