37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 441921 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : bwz.vor |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : holding ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : vfr |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 4300 flight time type : 380 |
ASRS Report | 441921 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Holding pattern at bwz VOR at 14000 ft MSL. The other aircraft gulfstream (III or 4) was on a VFR climb, flying through our altitude as we initiated the outbound turn at the holding fix. Our TCASII issued a corrective RA. We maneuvered visually (gulfstream in sight), climbed approximately 800-900 ft, and avoided the traffic. ATC had issued a traffic alert call and both the captain and I saw the traffic. The corrective TCASII RA did not provide sufficient clearance because of the geometry of the turn in the holding pattern. ATC was advised of the TCASII evasive action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A VFR CLBING GIII CREATES A TCASII EVENT FOR A B737-800 IN THE HOLDING PATTERN AT BWZ, NJ.
Narrative: HOLDING PATTERN AT BWZ VOR AT 14000 FT MSL. THE OTHER ACFT GULFSTREAM (III OR 4) WAS ON A VFR CLB, FLYING THROUGH OUR ALT AS WE INITIATED THE OUTBOUND TURN AT THE HOLDING FIX. OUR TCASII ISSUED A CORRECTIVE RA. WE MANEUVERED VISUALLY (GULFSTREAM IN SIGHT), CLBED APPROX 800-900 FT, AND AVOIDED THE TFC. ATC HAD ISSUED A TFC ALERT CALL AND BOTH THE CAPT AND I SAW THE TFC. THE CORRECTIVE TCASII RA DID NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT CLRNC BECAUSE OF THE GEOMETRY OF THE TURN IN THE HOLDING PATTERN. ATC WAS ADVISED OF THE TCASII EVASIVE ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.