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Attributes | |
ACN | 444220 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ilg.airport |
State Reference | DE |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Citation III, VI, VII |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 119 flight time total : 12880 flight time type : 781 |
ASRS Report | 444220 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Shortly after our takeoff from ilg, philadelphia departure control cleared us to climb to 5000 ft. We were turning to an assigned 330 degree heading. A moment later philadelphia departure control issued us, another clearance to proceed direct to the ood VOR when climbing out of 2000 ft. I read back 'direct ood leaving 2000 ft.' when we reached 2000 ft in our climb to 5000 ft we started a right turn (the shortest turn) toward ood. During this turn we received another radio transmission from philadelphia departure control, asking us which way we were turning. I replied 'to the right.' the controller then stated he had issued us instruction to turn 'left' direct ood. My first officer and myself have no memory of his telling us to turn either left or right but only to proceed direct ood leaving 2000 ft. We were conducting the after takeoff checklist when he called and it's possible we missed it, but it's also possible he did not specify a left or right turn, we just don't know for sure. But we are sure I did not read back a direction of turn. There was no further xmissions regarding this matter from ATC and no further changes in heading or altitude and to the best of our knowledge it did not result in a hazardous situation. If we missed part of the clearance it means we need to listen more closely, especially when conducting checklists and we have made a commitment to do that as cockpit procedure. This is a good idea no matter where the error was in this particular matter.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C650 CREW HAD READBACK, HEARBACK CONFUSION WITH ATC.
Narrative: SHORTLY AFTER OUR TKOF FROM ILG, PHILADELPHIA DEP CTL CLRED US TO CLB TO 5000 FT. WE WERE TURNING TO AN ASSIGNED 330 DEG HDG. A MOMENT LATER PHILADELPHIA DEP CTL ISSUED US, ANOTHER CLRNC TO PROCEED DIRECT TO THE OOD VOR WHEN CLBING OUT OF 2000 FT. I READ BACK 'DIRECT OOD LEAVING 2000 FT.' WHEN WE REACHED 2000 FT IN OUR CLB TO 5000 FT WE STARTED A R TURN (THE SHORTEST TURN) TOWARD OOD. DURING THIS TURN WE RECEIVED ANOTHER RADIO XMISSION FROM PHILADELPHIA DEP CTL, ASKING US WHICH WAY WE WERE TURNING. I REPLIED 'TO THE R.' THE CTLR THEN STATED HE HAD ISSUED US INSTRUCTION TO TURN 'L' DIRECT OOD. MY FO AND MYSELF HAVE NO MEMORY OF HIS TELLING US TO TURN EITHER L OR R BUT ONLY TO PROCEED DIRECT OOD LEAVING 2000 FT. WE WERE CONDUCTING THE AFTER TKOF CHKLIST WHEN HE CALLED AND IT'S POSSIBLE WE MISSED IT, BUT IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE HE DID NOT SPECIFY A L OR R TURN, WE JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. BUT WE ARE SURE I DID NOT READ BACK A DIRECTION OF TURN. THERE WAS NO FURTHER XMISSIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER FROM ATC AND NO FURTHER CHANGES IN HEADING OR ALT AND TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE IT DID NOT RESULT IN A HAZARDOUS SIT. IF WE MISSED PART OF THE CLRNC IT MEANS WE NEED TO LISTEN MORE CLOSELY, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONDUCTING CHKLISTS AND WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO THAT AS COCKPIT PROC. THIS IS A GOOD IDEA NO MATTER WHERE THE ERROR WAS IN THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.