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Attributes | |
ACN | 446100 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fok.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 446100 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Upon getting ATIS and personally calling for the proper rerte IFR flight was advised that either route was the same WX and would only give us the old route east. I really got the feeling that ATC just didn't want another aircraft to handle north of nyc and was 'palming' us off. We had a busy, bumpy, wet ride doing my best to avoid the chop. I realize that we didn't have to go, but I felt ok with the charter. I also feel quite dismayed that ATC could have delayed us -- worked us in -- on a much better route we worked so hard to get! It worked out, but still could have gone better.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PLT COULD NOT GET THE REQUESTED RTE AROUND WX DEPARTING FROM FOK.
Narrative: UPON GETTING ATIS AND PERSONALLY CALLING FOR THE PROPER RERTE IFR FLT WAS ADVISED THAT EITHER RTE WAS THE SAME WX AND WOULD ONLY GIVE US THE OLD RTE E. I REALLY GOT THE FEELING THAT ATC JUST DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER ACFT TO HANDLE N OF NYC AND WAS 'PALMING' US OFF. WE HAD A BUSY, BUMPY, WET RIDE DOING MY BEST TO AVOID THE CHOP. I REALIZE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO, BUT I FELT OK WITH THE CHARTER. I ALSO FEEL QUITE DISMAYED THAT ATC COULD HAVE DELAYED US -- WORKED US IN -- ON A MUCH BETTER RTE WE WORKED SO HARD TO GET! IT WORKED OUT, BUT STILL COULD HAVE GONE BETTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.