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Attributes | |
ACN | 446297 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : usaba |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : sbgl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : descent cruise : enroute altitude change |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ns.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : sbgl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
ASRS Report | 446297 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : sbgl.artcc |
Narrative:
TCASII traffic alert. Level at FL310, we were given a clear to descend to FL180. Traffic was exactly below us. At FL305 monitor vertical speed was given. Per company procedure, the autoplt was disconnected. Rather than slow descent, I climbed back up to FL310. First officer switched from 40 below to 20 below during this incident. Now we could see the traffic on the scope. We tried telling ATC but we got the same clearance 'descend to FL180.' very difficult to try to get across that there was a jet right below us at FL290 going the same direction on the airway. One thing was very clear to first officer and myself. Without the aid of TCASII it would have been up to the other aircraft below us to avert a major problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 CREW WAS CLRED TO DSND ON TOP OF ANOTHER ACFT.
Narrative: TCASII TFC ALERT. LEVEL AT FL310, WE WERE GIVEN A CLR TO DSND TO FL180. TFC WAS EXACTLY BELOW US. AT FL305 MONITOR VERT SPD WAS GIVEN. PER COMPANY PROC, THE AUTOPLT WAS DISCONNECTED. RATHER THAN SLOW DSCNT, I CLBED BACK UP TO FL310. FO SWITCHED FROM 40 BELOW TO 20 BELOW DURING THIS INCIDENT. NOW WE COULD SEE THE TFC ON THE SCOPE. WE TRIED TELLING ATC BUT WE GOT THE SAME CLRNC 'DSND TO FL180.' VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET ACROSS THAT THERE WAS A JET RIGHT BELOW US AT FL290 GOING THE SAME DIRECTION ON THE AIRWAY. ONE THING WAS VERY CLR TO FO AND MYSELF. WITHOUT THE AID OF TCASII IT WOULD HAVE BEEN UP TO THE OTHER ACFT BELOW US TO AVERT A MAJOR PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.