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Attributes | |
ACN | 447077 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dca.vor |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 447077 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 447671 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 750 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were aircraft X, lga-dca. Inbound to dca VOR, 115 degree radial, 22 DME, level at 10000 ft MSL, 25O KTS, heading 295 degrees, dc approach 124.2 MHZ. During the approximately 15 seconds this event encompassed, we were in VMC in daylight between clouds including cumulo nimbus. I found out later that the other aircraft was aircraft Y inbound to bwi working balance approach. Our initial indication of the other aircraft was a TCASII TA followed immediately by an RA telling us to descend. On my TCASII indicator the subject aircraft was directly in front of us, 700 ft above us descending towards us, inside the 2.5 mi ring on the indicator. Then several things happened almost at once. I started a descent, looked up and saw the aircraft, looked down at the TCASII indicator and saw he was 300 ft above us still descending, less than 1 mi in front of us, started a left turn, looked up and saw him in what appeared to be a pull-up and turn to his left as he passed to our right side. I would estimate when he went by us he was no more than 100 ft above us and about 500-1000 ft horizontal away. We reported the near miss to ATC and proceeded to a normal arrival. Shortly after arrival, I talked to a supervisor at the dca TRACON. He said they were investigating this event as a 'system error.' he very candidly admitted to me that the aircraft Y flight had been given a descent clearance through our altitude due to miscom between the dca and balance tracons.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 FLC INBOUND TO DCA RECEIVED A TCASII RA REQUIRING IMMEDIATE EVASIVE ACTION. ATC ADMITTED A B767 HAD BEEN GIVEN A DSCNT CLRNC THROUGH THE B727'S ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE ACFT X, LGA-DCA. INBOUND TO DCA VOR, 115 DEG RADIAL, 22 DME, LEVEL AT 10000 FT MSL, 25O KTS, HDG 295 DEGS, DC APCH 124.2 MHZ. DURING THE APPROX 15 SECONDS THIS EVENT ENCOMPASSED, WE WERE IN VMC IN DAYLIGHT BTWN CLOUDS INCLUDING CUMULO NIMBUS. I FOUND OUT LATER THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS ACFT Y INBOUND TO BWI WORKING BAL APCH. OUR INITIAL INDICATION OF THE OTHER ACFT WAS A TCASII TA FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY AN RA TELLING US TO DSND. ON MY TCASII INDICATOR THE SUBJECT ACFT WAS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US, 700 FT ABOVE US DSNDING TOWARDS US, INSIDE THE 2.5 MI RING ON THE INDICATOR. THEN SEVERAL THINGS HAPPENED ALMOST AT ONCE. I STARTED A DSCNT, LOOKED UP AND SAW THE ACFT, LOOKED DOWN AT THE TCASII INDICATOR AND SAW HE WAS 300 FT ABOVE US STILL DSNDING, LESS THAN 1 MI IN FRONT OF US, STARTED A L TURN, LOOKED UP AND SAW HIM IN WHAT APPEARED TO BE A PULL-UP AND TURN TO HIS L AS HE PASSED TO OUR R SIDE. I WOULD ESTIMATE WHEN HE WENT BY US HE WAS NO MORE THAN 100 FT ABOVE US AND ABOUT 500-1000 FT HORIZ AWAY. WE RPTED THE NEAR MISS TO ATC AND PROCEEDED TO A NORMAL ARR. SHORTLY AFTER ARR, I TALKED TO A SUPVR AT THE DCA TRACON. HE SAID THEY WERE INVESTIGATING THIS EVENT AS A 'SYS ERROR.' HE VERY CANDIDLY ADMITTED TO ME THAT THE ACFT Y FLT HAD BEEN GIVEN A DSCNT CLRNC THROUGH OUR ALT DUE TO MISCOM BTWN THE DCA AND BAL TRACONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.