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Attributes | |
ACN | 448989 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl single value : 15500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors departure : other published ifr departure |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 7700 flight time type : 2770 |
ASRS Report | 448989 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
During departure from dca on north departure, the ATC controller on frequency 125.65 appeared to be confused and overtasked, leading to contradictory heading, route, and altitude directions. When we switched to 125.65 on departure, his first comment was 'ok XXXX, you're right in the middle of it, climb and maintain 9000 ft.' at 7 DME on the 328 degree radial (dca) ATC gave air carrier XXX turn right to 140 degrees. We answered, air carrier XXXX right to 140 degrees. As we passed through 360 degrees in a right turn, ATC said, air carrier XXXX turn right 360 degrees. This is the only time he used the correct call sign. We acknowledged, stopped the turn, and headed 360 degrees. About this time we leveled at 9000 ft. Immediately after our leveloff he gave air carrier XXX turn right 150 degrees, climb to 15000 ft. During acknowledgement, the captain asked him to confirm air carrier XXXX turn 150 degrees, climb to 15000 ft. He responded 'ok, XXXX climb to 15000 ft turn to 170 degrees, vectors for paleo.' paleo was not on our route. When we asked him about the vector and before we got to 170 degree heading, he told us to roll out heading 090 degrees. (There were several other aircraft on the frequency all this time and at least 1 time he directed aircraft to make an immediate hard turn to avoid traffic.) on the 90 degree heading and level at 15000 ft, he said, air carrier XXX climb to 16000 ft. We acknowledged and started the climb to 16000 ft. At 15300 ft ATC asked if air carrier XXX was maintaining 15000 ft. We answered, no climbing to 16000 ft. ATC directed an immediate descent to 15000 ft and an immediate left turn to 030 degrees to avoid traffic. We saw the traffic at 12 O'clock on the TCASII at 16000 ft. We stopped the climb by 15500 ft and returned to 15000 ft. The traffic never got closer than 5 mi on TCASII. Shortly after this he turned us over to ZDC on 134.5. The rest of the climb was normal. At no time during our departure and climb did the controller appear to know 1) our call sign, 2) our route of flight, 3) what instructions he had given us last. If the WX had not been so good we would have been very worried about our safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 ACR ACFT, SAME ACR, SAME LAST 3 DIGITS OF CALL SIGNS EXACTLY THE SAME. 1 CONFUSED DEP CTLR AND SOON 2 CONFUSED FLCS, MIXING AND SOMETIMES MATCHING TURNS, ALTS, AND CLRNCS CREATES A HAZARDOUS SIT IN DCA AIRSPACE.
Narrative: DURING DEP FROM DCA ON N DEP, THE ATC CTLR ON FREQ 125.65 APPEARED TO BE CONFUSED AND OVERTASKED, LEADING TO CONTRADICTORY HDG, RTE, AND ALT DIRECTIONS. WHEN WE SWITCHED TO 125.65 ON DEP, HIS FIRST COMMENT WAS 'OK XXXX, YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, CLB AND MAINTAIN 9000 FT.' AT 7 DME ON THE 328 DEG RADIAL (DCA) ATC GAVE ACR XXX TURN R TO 140 DEGS. WE ANSWERED, ACR XXXX R TO 140 DEGS. AS WE PASSED THROUGH 360 DEGS IN A R TURN, ATC SAID, ACR XXXX TURN R 360 DEGS. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME HE USED THE CORRECT CALL SIGN. WE ACKNOWLEDGED, STOPPED THE TURN, AND HEADED 360 DEGS. ABOUT THIS TIME WE LEVELED AT 9000 FT. IMMEDIATELY AFTER OUR LEVELOFF HE GAVE ACR XXX TURN R 150 DEGS, CLB TO 15000 FT. DURING ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, THE CAPT ASKED HIM TO CONFIRM ACR XXXX TURN 150 DEGS, CLB TO 15000 FT. HE RESPONDED 'OK, XXXX CLB TO 15000 FT TURN TO 170 DEGS, VECTORS FOR PALEO.' PALEO WAS NOT ON OUR RTE. WHEN WE ASKED HIM ABOUT THE VECTOR AND BEFORE WE GOT TO 170 DEG HDG, HE TOLD US TO ROLL OUT HDG 090 DEGS. (THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER ACFT ON THE FREQ ALL THIS TIME AND AT LEAST 1 TIME HE DIRECTED ACFT TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE HARD TURN TO AVOID TFC.) ON THE 90 DEG HDG AND LEVEL AT 15000 FT, HE SAID, ACR XXX CLB TO 16000 FT. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND STARTED THE CLB TO 16000 FT. AT 15300 FT ATC ASKED IF ACR XXX WAS MAINTAINING 15000 FT. WE ANSWERED, NO CLBING TO 16000 FT. ATC DIRECTED AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT TO 15000 FT AND AN IMMEDIATE L TURN TO 030 DEGS TO AVOID TFC. WE SAW THE TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK ON THE TCASII AT 16000 FT. WE STOPPED THE CLB BY 15500 FT AND RETURNED TO 15000 FT. THE TFC NEVER GOT CLOSER THAN 5 MI ON TCASII. SHORTLY AFTER THIS HE TURNED US OVER TO ZDC ON 134.5. THE REST OF THE CLB WAS NORMAL. AT NO TIME DURING OUR DEP AND CLB DID THE CTLR APPEAR TO KNOW 1) OUR CALL SIGN, 2) OUR RTE OF FLT, 3) WHAT INSTRUCTIONS HE HAD GIVEN US LAST. IF THE WX HAD NOT BEEN SO GOOD WE WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY WORRIED ABOUT OUR SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.