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Attributes | |
ACN | 449400 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d21.tracon tower : dtw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 21l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 449400 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were inbound to dtw, where we were told to expect the ILS for runway 21L. There had been NOTAMS that runway 21R and runway 21C were closed. The controller cleared us for an approach. We thought he cleared us for runway 21L. He says he cleared us for runway 21R. When we were established on the localizer for runway 21L he told us he had cleared us for runway 21R. We are not sure who is right. But the controller should have advised us of the change of approach. No conflict of traffic resulted from this even though we crossed the approach for runway 21R to get to runway 21L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CREW AND CTLR DISAGREE ON WHAT APCH ASSIGNMENT IS.
Narrative: WE WERE INBOUND TO DTW, WHERE WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT THE ILS FOR RWY 21L. THERE HAD BEEN NOTAMS THAT RWY 21R AND RWY 21C WERE CLOSED. THE CTLR CLRED US FOR AN APCH. WE THOUGHT HE CLRED US FOR RWY 21L. HE SAYS HE CLRED US FOR RWY 21R. WHEN WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC FOR RWY 21L HE TOLD US HE HAD CLRED US FOR RWY 21R. WE ARE NOT SURE WHO IS RIGHT. BUT THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE ADVISED US OF THE CHANGE OF APCH. NO CONFLICT OF TFC RESULTED FROM THIS EVEN THOUGH WE CROSSED THE APCH FOR RWY 21R TO GET TO RWY 21L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.