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Attributes | |
ACN | 449453 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lax.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 2900 |
ASRS Report | 449453 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Airport ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : lax.tower |
Narrative:
Our flight had been cleared for takeoff behind a B727 which had just begun its initial climb out. ATC was not concerned because the B727 is not considered 'heavy.' we rolled slowly into position on runway 24L in order to create space between the B727 and ourselves. The tower controller forcefully told us to roll 'immediately.' there was no traffic on final so I figured that he was in a hurry to launch the aircraft behind us. We felt that sufficient distance had been created and we proceeded with a static takeoff. Our aircraft was very close to its maximum takeoff weight. Generally an E120 can climb steeper than a B727 but today we were about matched at 400 ft AGL. We encountered the wake from the B727. We immediately turned about 20 degrees right to exit the wake because it was the safest course of action. There was no traffic which was in conflict with us. The tower was advised of our turn and the wake issue was explained. The controller then proceeded to chastise for making an 'unapproved turn.' our heading deviation lasted about 8 seconds. There was no further incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E120 CREW ENCOUNTERED WAKE TURB FROM A B727 IMMEDIATELY AHEAD.
Narrative: OUR FLT HAD BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF BEHIND A B727 WHICH HAD JUST BEGUN ITS INITIAL CLBOUT. ATC WAS NOT CONCERNED BECAUSE THE B727 IS NOT CONSIDERED 'HVY.' WE ROLLED SLOWLY INTO POS ON RWY 24L IN ORDER TO CREATE SPACE BTWN THE B727 AND OURSELVES. THE TWR CTLR FORCEFULLY TOLD US TO ROLL 'IMMEDIATELY.' THERE WAS NO TFC ON FINAL SO I FIGURED THAT HE WAS IN A HURRY TO LAUNCH THE ACFT BEHIND US. WE FELT THAT SUFFICIENT DISTANCE HAD BEEN CREATED AND WE PROCEEDED WITH A STATIC TKOF. OUR ACFT WAS VERY CLOSE TO ITS MAX TKOF WT. GENERALLY AN E120 CAN CLB STEEPER THAN A B727 BUT TODAY WE WERE ABOUT MATCHED AT 400 FT AGL. WE ENCOUNTERED THE WAKE FROM THE B727. WE IMMEDIATELY TURNED ABOUT 20 DEGS R TO EXIT THE WAKE BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION. THERE WAS NO TFC WHICH WAS IN CONFLICT WITH US. THE TWR WAS ADVISED OF OUR TURN AND THE WAKE ISSUE WAS EXPLAINED. THE CTLR THEN PROCEEDED TO CHASTISE FOR MAKING AN 'UNAPPROVED TURN.' OUR HDG DEV LASTED ABOUT 8 SECONDS. THERE WAS NO FURTHER INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.