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Attributes | |
ACN | 449887 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bur.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : ebbr.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 450 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 449887 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Environmental Factor |
Narrative:
While being vectored at 5000 ft, 340 degree heading from burbank airport to vny ILS in IMC ATC neglected to issue lost communication instructions nor to inform us that radar contact was lost with us over high terrain, approaching north of umber where MVA was 6000 ft. We turned west on our own and switched from 120.4 to 134.2. Same fellow was working both frequencys. Radar contact was eventually restored and we landed at vny without incident. Someone was vectored into a mountain in the same area several yrs ago. I called socal TRACON and the quality assurance specialist agreed that turning west and changing frequencys was the right action. We both agreed that an rco or enhanced radar service in the area would considerably improve safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CESSNA 182 PLT LOST RADIO CONTACT WHILE ON AN IMC RADAR VECTOR TOWARD HIGH TERRAIN NEAR BUR.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED AT 5000 FT, 340 DEG HDG FROM BURBANK ARPT TO VNY ILS IN IMC ATC NEGLECTED TO ISSUE LOST COM INSTRUCTIONS NOR TO INFORM US THAT RADAR CONTACT WAS LOST WITH US OVER HIGH TERRAIN, APCHING N OF UMBER WHERE MVA WAS 6000 FT. WE TURNED W ON OUR OWN AND SWITCHED FROM 120.4 TO 134.2. SAME FELLOW WAS WORKING BOTH FREQS. RADAR CONTACT WAS EVENTUALLY RESTORED AND WE LANDED AT VNY WITHOUT INCIDENT. SOMEONE WAS VECTORED INTO A MOUNTAIN IN THE SAME AREA SEVERAL YRS AGO. I CALLED SOCAL TRACON AND THE QUALITY ASSURANCE SPECIALIST AGREED THAT TURNING W AND CHANGING FREQS WAS THE RIGHT ACTION. WE BOTH AGREED THAT AN RCO OR ENHANCED RADAR SVC IN THE AREA WOULD CONSIDERABLY IMPROVE SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.