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Attributes | |
ACN | 453603 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 7500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 225 flight time type : 195 |
ASRS Report | 453603 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel |
Qualification | other |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Got FSS WX briefing, which indicated clear below 12000 ft. Filed IFR flight plan pne-ard-lga-bdr-hfd-hfd. Got clearance which sent me via fjc-huo. Declined clearance due to routing. Departed VFR in VMC -- hazy. Obtained flight following. Quite hazy, but always in contact with ground from 7500 ft. Approximately carmel VOR, suddenly found myself in clouds. (Was unable to detect them approaching.) contacted ny approach, told them 'inadvertent flight into clouds,' asked for IFR clearance direct hfd at 7000 ft. Was told by approach controller that I was VFR and requested to maintain clear of clouds. I responded, 'understand,' and repeated 'inadvertent flight into clouds.' controller asked if I was declaring an emergency. I responded 'affirmative.' (why was the controller bullying me?) was told to standby then received requested clearance. Completed flight IFR. After flight, contacted FSS (bdr) and ny approach by phone to see why my clearance from pne to hfd is always so roundabout. Was unable to find out why. No tower en route control route in manuals. Pne tower suggested ard-V276-dixix-V16-jfk-V225-hfd. In future, will accept clearance and negotiate once airborne.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT DEPARTS IN MARGINAL WX CONDITIONS VFR AND ENCOUNTERS INST CONDITIONS, DECLARING AN EMER. PLT FEELS N90 IS GIVING HIM THE 'RUN AROUND.'
Narrative: GOT FSS WX BRIEFING, WHICH INDICATED CLR BELOW 12000 FT. FILED IFR FLT PLAN PNE-ARD-LGA-BDR-HFD-HFD. GOT CLRNC WHICH SENT ME VIA FJC-HUO. DECLINED CLRNC DUE TO ROUTING. DEPARTED VFR IN VMC -- HAZY. OBTAINED FLT FOLLOWING. QUITE HAZY, BUT ALWAYS IN CONTACT WITH GND FROM 7500 FT. APPROX CARMEL VOR, SUDDENLY FOUND MYSELF IN CLOUDS. (WAS UNABLE TO DETECT THEM APCHING.) CONTACTED NY APCH, TOLD THEM 'INADVERTENT FLT INTO CLOUDS,' ASKED FOR IFR CLRNC DIRECT HFD AT 7000 FT. WAS TOLD BY APCH CTLR THAT I WAS VFR AND REQUESTED TO MAINTAIN CLR OF CLOUDS. I RESPONDED, 'UNDERSTAND,' AND REPEATED 'INADVERTENT FLT INTO CLOUDS.' CTLR ASKED IF I WAS DECLARING AN EMER. I RESPONDED 'AFFIRMATIVE.' (WHY WAS THE CTLR BULLYING ME?) WAS TOLD TO STANDBY THEN RECEIVED REQUESTED CLRNC. COMPLETED FLT IFR. AFTER FLT, CONTACTED FSS (BDR) AND NY APCH BY PHONE TO SEE WHY MY CLRNC FROM PNE TO HFD IS ALWAYS SO ROUNDABOUT. WAS UNABLE TO FIND OUT WHY. NO TWR ENRTE CTL RTE IN MANUALS. PNE TWR SUGGESTED ARD-V276-DIXIX-V16-JFK-V225-HFD. IN FUTURE, WILL ACCEPT CLRNC AND NEGOTIATE ONCE AIRBORNE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.