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Attributes | |
ACN | 453830 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ttt.vor |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : phx.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 453830 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Company ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
On SID, climbing out of 11500 ft, TCASII issued TA. Shortly thereafter, TCASII issued an RA to 'descend.' I, the PF, complied with command. We then established visual contact with the aircraft directly in front and above us. TCASII saved us. Here in lies my frustration. TCASII is not required for cargo carriers. My company only has a fraction of its aircraft equipped with TCASII (that only because TCASII is required on many international routes and passenger operations for the B727). The majority of our aircraft are not equipped with TCASII. In contrast, all of our competitors in the cargo business voluntarily equipment their aircraft with TCASII. Isn't it time for the FAA to step up and set the same standard for all commercial aircraft and require TCASII. Is not my life worth the same as anyone else, or is it worth less because I happen to fly cargo?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 CARGO LINER HAD TCASII RA ON DEP FROM DFW.
Narrative: ON SID, CLBING OUT OF 11500 FT, TCASII ISSUED TA. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, TCASII ISSUED AN RA TO 'DSND.' I, THE PF, COMPLIED WITH COMMAND. WE THEN ESTABLISHED VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE ACFT DIRECTLY IN FRONT AND ABOVE US. TCASII SAVED US. HERE IN LIES MY FRUSTRATION. TCASII IS NOT REQUIRED FOR CARGO CARRIERS. MY COMPANY ONLY HAS A FRACTION OF ITS ACFT EQUIPPED WITH TCASII (THAT ONLY BECAUSE TCASII IS REQUIRED ON MANY INTL ROUTES AND PAX OPS FOR THE B727). THE MAJORITY OF OUR ACFT ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH TCASII. IN CONTRAST, ALL OF OUR COMPETITORS IN THE CARGO BUSINESS VOLUNTARILY EQUIP THEIR ACFT WITH TCASII. ISN'T IT TIME FOR THE FAA TO STEP UP AND SET THE SAME STANDARD FOR ALL COMMERCIAL ACFT AND REQUIRE TCASII. IS NOT MY LIFE WORTH THE SAME AS ANYONE ELSE, OR IS IT WORTH LESS BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO FLY CARGO?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.