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Light transport air carrier crew departed VFR and had less than legal spacing with conflicting aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 454578 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199911 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stc.airport |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 275 flight time total : 6250 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 454578 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert |
| Consequence | other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 700 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Air carrier from aty-stc-msp leg aty-stc uneventful. Got a squawk code out of stc for stc-msp leg because of trouble getting clrncs on the ground. Departed late and tried to get clearance in the air. ZMP said maintain VFR clearance shortly traffic 12 O'clock at 4000 ft. First officer was flying and he leveled off momentarily at 4000 ft. I told him to expedite up to 5000 ft to avoid traffic and he complied after some hesitation. Msp gave us our clearance at 5000 ft. After we landed in msp, I discussed the situation with the first officer. He didn't even realize what had happened. His situational awareness was just to fly the airplane and that's it. I explained to him it was more than that, and that it is very poor professionalism to think like that. I am going to discuss this situation with the chief pilot and see what can be done in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT ACR CREW DEPARTED VFR AND HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SPACING WITH CONFLICTING ACFT.
Narrative: ACR FROM ATY-STC-MSP LEG ATY-STC UNEVENTFUL. GOT A SQUAWK CODE OUT OF STC FOR STC-MSP LEG BECAUSE OF TROUBLE GETTING CLRNCS ON THE GND. DEPARTED LATE AND TRIED TO GET CLRNC IN THE AIR. ZMP SAID MAINTAIN VFR CLRNC SHORTLY TFC 12 O'CLOCK AT 4000 FT. FO WAS FLYING AND HE LEVELED OFF MOMENTARILY AT 4000 FT. I TOLD HIM TO EXPEDITE UP TO 5000 FT TO AVOID TFC AND HE COMPLIED AFTER SOME HESITATION. MSP GAVE US OUR CLRNC AT 5000 FT. AFTER WE LANDED IN MSP, I DISCUSSED THE SIT WITH THE FO. HE DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WHAT HAD HAPPENED. HIS SITUATIONAL AWARENESS WAS JUST TO FLY THE AIRPLANE AND THAT'S IT. I EXPLAINED TO HIM IT WAS MORE THAN THAT, AND THAT IT IS VERY POOR PROFESSIONALISM TO THINK LIKE THAT. I AM GOING TO DISCUSS THIS SIT WITH THE CHIEF PLT AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.