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Attributes | |
ACN | 458745 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfb.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon tower : bwi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 9l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 560 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 458745 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were being vectored for a base leg for ILS runway 9L at sfb. We were heading 280 degrees at 2000 ft. We were told to hold 210 degrees. Just as we started our turn, a plane was on top of us heading approximately 150 degrees. We both diverted, and we entered its wake turbulence. The plane was larger and faster, but I didn't get a good look at it. It was a close call. I was looking for traffic, but I couldn't see him. Approach was really busy and it was VMC, so I realized we were responsible for aircraft separation, but we were under the mode C veil. It was a near miss and with the way the planes were coming at each other it would be hard to see each other. I didn't say anything to approach. The frequency was really busy and I really didn't know what I would have said.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 INSTRUCTIONAL FLT HAS NMAC BELOW THE MCO CLASS B AIRSPACE WHILE UNDER THE CTL OF MCO APCH CTL.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR A BASE LEG FOR ILS RWY 9L AT SFB. WE WERE HDG 280 DEGS AT 2000 FT. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD 210 DEGS. JUST AS WE STARTED OUR TURN, A PLANE WAS ON TOP OF US HDG APPROX 150 DEGS. WE BOTH DIVERTED, AND WE ENTERED ITS WAKE TURB. THE PLANE WAS LARGER AND FASTER, BUT I DIDN'T GET A GOOD LOOK AT IT. IT WAS A CLOSE CALL. I WAS LOOKING FOR TFC, BUT I COULDN'T SEE HIM. APCH WAS REALLY BUSY AND IT WAS VMC, SO I REALIZED WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR ACFT SEPARATION, BUT WE WERE UNDER THE MODE C VEIL. IT WAS A NEAR MISS AND WITH THE WAY THE PLANES WERE COMING AT EACH OTHER IT WOULD BE HARD TO SEE EACH OTHER. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO APCH. THE FREQ WAS REALLY BUSY AND I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE SAID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.