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Attributes | |
ACN | 459550 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | other |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-82 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 7300 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 459550 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
#3 for departure on runway 4 at lga. Tower reported winds 330 degrees at 17 KTS gust to 34 KTS. A departing air carrier DC9 declined a takeoff clearance because of the previously stated winds. Several other aircraft also declined runway 4. The first officer and I checked the MD82 crosswind limitations and referred to the crosswind component chart. We agreed that our steady wind component was 14 KTS and the gust component was 28 KTS. The runway was dry, maximum power was used and the WX was clear and 10 mi. The MD80 limitations in the fcom states that there is no crosswind limitation. It goes on to say that a component near 30 KTS 'with' (key word) higher gusts 'should' be considered operationally unacceptable. We were nowhere near a 30 KT component. We were comfortable with the decision to take off, but felt awkward with others not going.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW TOOK OFF WITH HVY XWINDS.
Narrative: #3 FOR DEP ON RWY 4 AT LGA. TWR RPTED WINDS 330 DEGS AT 17 KTS GUST TO 34 KTS. A DEPARTING ACR DC9 DECLINED A TKOF CLRNC BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUSLY STATED WINDS. SEVERAL OTHER ACFT ALSO DECLINED RWY 4. THE FO AND I CHKED THE MD82 XWIND LIMITATIONS AND REFERRED TO THE XWIND COMPONENT CHART. WE AGREED THAT OUR STEADY WIND COMPONENT WAS 14 KTS AND THE GUST COMPONENT WAS 28 KTS. THE RWY WAS DRY, MAX PWR WAS USED AND THE WX WAS CLR AND 10 MI. THE MD80 LIMITATIONS IN THE FCOM STATES THAT THERE IS NO XWIND LIMITATION. IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT A COMPONENT NEAR 30 KTS 'WITH' (KEY WORD) HIGHER GUSTS 'SHOULD' BE CONSIDERED OPERATIONALLY UNACCEPTABLE. WE WERE NOWHERE NEAR A 30 KT COMPONENT. WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DECISION TO TAKE OFF, BUT FELT AWKWARD WITH OTHERS NOT GOING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.