<< >> NASA ASRS Report 459602, January 2000

A C182 commercial pilot has an near midair collision with a cherokee in the traffic pattern at frg, ny. There was no TA issued to either pilot.

Attributes
ACN	459602
Time
Date	200001
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl single value : 1100
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : frg.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	other
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : frg.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 42 flight time total : 1017 flight time type : 515
ASRS Report	459602
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : unique event conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 350 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was cleared by frg tower to enter a right downwind for runway 19. As I was making a 45 degree entry at the corner of the crosswind/downwind leg, the cherokee appeared in my right windshield and crossed in front of me. I banked sharply to the right and descended. The tower controller asked the cherokee if he saw me. He said he didn't. Apparently he had taken off on runway 19 and was making right closed traffic. Certainly more external scanning might have alerted me to his position earlier. If the controller had mentioned the cherokee was in the pattern when he directed me to the right downwind, that would have helped also.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A C182 COMMERCIAL PLT HAS AN NMAC WITH A CHEROKEE IN THE TFC PATTERN AT FRG, NY. THERE WAS NO TA ISSUED TO EITHER PLT.

Narrative: I WAS CLRED BY FRG TWR TO ENTER A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 19. AS I WAS MAKING A 45 DEG ENTRY AT THE CORNER OF THE XWIND/DOWNWIND LEG, THE CHEROKEE APPEARED IN MY R WINDSHIELD AND CROSSED IN FRONT OF ME. I BANKED SHARPLY TO THE R AND DSNDED. THE TWR CTLR ASKED THE CHEROKEE IF HE SAW ME. HE SAID HE DIDN'T. APPARENTLY HE HAD TAKEN OFF ON RWY 19 AND WAS MAKING R CLOSED TFC. CERTAINLY MORE EXTERNAL SCANNING MIGHT HAVE ALERTED ME TO HIS POS EARLIER. IF THE CTLR HAD MENTIONED THE CHEROKEE WAS IN THE PATTERN WHEN HE DIRECTED ME TO THE R DOWNWIND, THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED ALSO.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.