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Attributes | |
ACN | 460965 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mco.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL600 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 18l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 1750 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 460965 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 460132 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During a visual approach to mco, on the downwind leg, we were given a turn to base leg at which time I lost sight of the airport. We were doing about 240 KIAS. Upon completion of the turn, the airport was still not in sight. We continued a westerly heading and then started a turn to final. I misjudged the turn and overshot the final approach course. A few seconds later, we received a TCASII RA climb. The climb was executed and we contacted ATC. ATC in turn rerouted us to final and the landing was made without further incident. The factors leading into the RA were loss of situational awareness and going too fast for the conditions. Corrective action in the future will be to keep situational awareness at all times. Supplemental information from acn 460132: the biggest factor of this situation was the first officer not telling me he lost sight of field. Contributing factor was me not querying him earlier. Also, which I talked to him on the ground about, was his airspeed. If he had slowed down to 180 KTS with flaps 25 degrees out, that would probably have given him the extra time he needed to reacquire the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR OVERSHOOTS TURN TO FINAL AT MCO RESULTING IN TCASII RA FOR TFC ON PARALLEL RWY AND MISSED APCH.
Narrative: DURING A VISUAL APCH TO MCO, ON THE DOWNWIND LEG, WE WERE GIVEN A TURN TO BASE LEG AT WHICH TIME I LOST SIGHT OF THE ARPT. WE WERE DOING ABOUT 240 KIAS. UPON COMPLETION OF THE TURN, THE ARPT WAS STILL NOT IN SIGHT. WE CONTINUED A WESTERLY HDG AND THEN STARTED A TURN TO FINAL. I MISJUDGED THE TURN AND OVERSHOT THE FINAL APCH COURSE. A FEW SECONDS LATER, WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA CLB. THE CLB WAS EXECUTED AND WE CONTACTED ATC. ATC IN TURN REROUTED US TO FINAL AND THE LNDG WAS MADE WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. THE FACTORS LEADING INTO THE RA WERE LOSS OF SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND GOING TOO FAST FOR THE CONDITIONS. CORRECTIVE ACTION IN THE FUTURE WILL BE TO KEEP SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AT ALL TIMES. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 460132: THE BIGGEST FACTOR OF THIS SIT WAS THE FO NOT TELLING ME HE LOST SIGHT OF FIELD. CONTRIBUTING FACTOR WAS ME NOT QUERYING HIM EARLIER. ALSO, WHICH I TALKED TO HIM ON THE GND ABOUT, WAS HIS AIRSPD. IF HE HAD SLOWED DOWN TO 180 KTS WITH FLAPS 25 DEGS OUT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE GIVEN HIM THE EXTRA TIME HE NEEDED TO REACQUIRE THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.