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Attributes | |
ACN | 461491 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : morray |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4700 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : ilwn |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 461491 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 461490 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
First officer flying. We were given a clearance to cross morray at 4000 ft and call the field in sight. Both the first officer and I understood the clearance to read cross morray at or above 4000 ft. We crossed morray at 4700 ft. As we crossed the fix, the controller asked if we were going to make the restr. The controller seemed upset but when I asked if there was a conflict he said no. I think the reason for not understanding the clearance properly is because at that point in the approach we are used to hearing cross X at or above the assigned altitude, cleared for the ILS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT FAILS TO MEET XING RESTR AT IAF.
Narrative: FO FLYING. WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO CROSS MORRAY AT 4000 FT AND CALL THE FIELD IN SIGHT. BOTH THE FO AND I UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC TO READ CROSS MORRAY AT OR ABOVE 4000 FT. WE CROSSED MORRAY AT 4700 FT. AS WE CROSSED THE FIX, THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THE RESTR. THE CTLR SEEMED UPSET BUT WHEN I ASKED IF THERE WAS A CONFLICT HE SAID NO. I THINK THE REASON FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING THE CLRNC PROPERLY IS BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IN THE APCH WE ARE USED TO HEARING CROSS X AT OR ABOVE THE ASSIGNED ALT, CLRED FOR THE ILS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.