Air carrier flight crew experiences track deviation departing roa.

Attributes
ACN	461590
Time
Date	200001
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : roa.airport
State Reference	VA
Altitude	agl single value : 600
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : roa.tracon tower : roa.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727-100
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff climbout : initial ground : takeoff roll ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 59 flight time total : 11508 flight time type : 2983
ASRS Report	461590
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	462171
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to original clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

On the night of jan/thu/00, the first officer called roanoke clearance delivery for air carrier X to phl and received an IFR clearance as filed via direct gordonsville. I read back 'cleared as filed direct gordonsville.' the first officer asked if we had been assigned 350 degree heading the previous night. I replied 'no, 235 degrees, straight off runway 24, then 350 degrees.' on takeoff I checked and told the first officer who was flying the aircraft clear left anticipating a VFR turn toward parte intersection within 2 NM of airport, thence direct gordonsville. As we started the left turn, tower asked where we were going. (Replied, not understanding if it was an ATC or flight plan question.) the tower replied we were assigned 235 degree heading in our clearance. The first officer verified the heading had been assigned during the clearance. We turned to 235 degrees and were xferred to departure control. Supplemental information from acn 462171: clearance cleared us to maintain 235 degree heading on departure from runway 24. First officer (me) read back the clearance and copied it on the flight plan. I thought the captain had understood the clearance and I mentioned the heading (235 degrees) to him. He made a strange comment which I took to mean that he understood the clearance. Actually he did not hear the clearance or he heard it and had tuned it out due to other people (mechanic or load supervisor or the flight engineer) in the cockpit. When tower cleared us for takeoff they did not remind us of the 235 degree heading and I mentioned it to the captain when he said that we could turn left out of traffic after takeoff and proceed to philadelphia. When the captain said 'turn left' after takeoff, I said that wasn't our clearance and 'do you want to check with tower before we turn just to make sure.' he said 'no, turn now' and I did even though I was now confused...because I thought that he knew something that I didn't, since he had flown out of roanoke for many years.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR FLC EXPERIENCES TRACK DEV DEPARTING ROA.

Narrative: ON THE NIGHT OF JAN/THU/00, THE FO CALLED ROANOKE CLRNC DELIVERY FOR ACR X TO PHL AND RECEIVED AN IFR CLRNC AS FILED VIA DIRECT GORDONSVILLE. I READ BACK 'CLRED AS FILED DIRECT GORDONSVILLE.' THE FO ASKED IF WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED 350 DEG HDG THE PREVIOUS NIGHT. I REPLIED 'NO, 235 DEGS, STRAIGHT OFF RWY 24, THEN 350 DEGS.' ON TKOF I CHKED AND TOLD THE FO WHO WAS FLYING THE ACFT CLR L ANTICIPATING A VFR TURN TOWARD PARTE INTXN WITHIN 2 NM OF ARPT, THENCE DIRECT GORDONSVILLE. AS WE STARTED THE L TURN, TWR ASKED WHERE WE WERE GOING. (REPLIED, NOT UNDERSTANDING IF IT WAS AN ATC OR FLT PLAN QUESTION.) THE TWR REPLIED WE WERE ASSIGNED 235 DEG HDG IN OUR CLRNC. THE FO VERIFIED THE HEADING HAD BEEN ASSIGNED DURING THE CLRNC. WE TURNED TO 235 DEGS AND WERE XFERRED TO DEP CTL. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 462171: CLRNC CLRED US TO MAINTAIN 235 DEG HDG ON DEP FROM RWY 24. FO (ME) READ BACK THE CLRNC AND COPIED IT ON THE FLT PLAN. I THOUGHT THE CAPT HAD UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC AND I MENTIONED THE HEADING (235 DEGS) TO HIM. HE MADE A STRANGE COMMENT WHICH I TOOK TO MEAN THAT HE UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC. ACTUALLY HE DID NOT HEAR THE CLRNC OR HE HEARD IT AND HAD TUNED IT OUT DUE TO OTHER PEOPLE (MECH OR LOAD SUPVR OR THE FE) IN THE COCKPIT. WHEN TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF THEY DID NOT REMIND US OF THE 235 DEG HDG AND I MENTIONED IT TO THE CAPT WHEN HE SAID THAT WE COULD TURN L OUT OF TFC AFTER TKOF AND PROCEED TO PHILADELPHIA. WHEN THE CAPT SAID 'TURN L' AFTER TKOF, I SAID THAT WASN'T OUR CLRNC AND 'DO YOU WANT TO CHK WITH TWR BEFORE WE TURN JUST TO MAKE SURE.' HE SAID 'NO, TURN NOW' AND I DID EVEN THOUGH I WAS NOW CONFUSED...BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT HE KNEW SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T, SINCE HE HAD FLOWN OUT OF ROANOKE FOR MANY YEARS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.