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Attributes | |
ACN | 464894 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : srq.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Learjet 25 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 464894 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On jan/xa/00, I was sic on a maintenance ferry flight from srq to fxe. We were clear to 'runway 32 and hold short of runway 22.' the captain was taxiing the learjet at the time. I repeated the ground controller instructions back to the captain 3 times during the taxiing process. The captain acknowledged receiving my readback instructions, as well as the srq ground controller. I was unable to stop the aircraft in time before crossing 'active runway 22.' the captain refused to release control of the aircraft. The captain has very poor CRM abilities. I believe the captain's actions were not a safety issue but inadvertent, and not deliberate actions by a person who is 61 yrs old and his mental/motor skills are not up to PAR with a learjet. Safety was not violated in this incident either, because it was a part 91 flight with no passenger. The captain comes from the 'old school' that the captain is the sole master of his ship. This captain has no idea what CRM is or what people skills are. Sound judgement is probably one of the most important characteristics of a pilot who exhibits good airmanship. But airmanship is an elusive quality. It implies much more than good stick and rudder skills. This specific captain has the habit of saying something and actually doing some other thing. I also believe his hearing skills are declining at this time. I believe I did everything possible to regain control of the aircraft, but the captain forced my inputs out of the way. We almost had a fight in the cockpit. To correct the situation, captain should retire from flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A LEARJET 25 FAILED TO HOLD SHORT OF AN ACTIVE RWY DURING TAXI OUT FOR TKOF.
Narrative: ON JAN/XA/00, I WAS SIC ON A MAINT FERRY FLT FROM SRQ TO FXE. WE WERE CLR TO 'RWY 32 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 22.' THE CAPT WAS TAXIING THE LEARJET AT THE TIME. I REPEATED THE GND CTLR INSTRUCTIONS BACK TO THE CAPT 3 TIMES DURING THE TAXIING PROCESS. THE CAPT ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIVING MY READBACK INSTRUCTIONS, AS WELL AS THE SRQ GND CTLR. I WAS UNABLE TO STOP THE ACFT IN TIME BEFORE XING 'ACTIVE RWY 22.' THE CAPT REFUSED TO RELEASE CTL OF THE ACFT. THE CAPT HAS VERY POOR CRM ABILITIES. I BELIEVE THE CAPT'S ACTIONS WERE NOT A SAFETY ISSUE BUT INADVERTENT, AND NOT DELIBERATE ACTIONS BY A PERSON WHO IS 61 YRS OLD AND HIS MENTAL/MOTOR SKILLS ARE NOT UP TO PAR WITH A LEARJET. SAFETY WAS NOT VIOLATED IN THIS INCIDENT EITHER, BECAUSE IT WAS A PART 91 FLT WITH NO PAX. THE CAPT COMES FROM THE 'OLD SCHOOL' THAT THE CAPT IS THE SOLE MASTER OF HIS SHIP. THIS CAPT HAS NO IDEA WHAT CRM IS OR WHAT PEOPLE SKILLS ARE. SOUND JUDGEMENT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTICS OF A PLT WHO EXHIBITS GOOD AIRMANSHIP. BUT AIRMANSHIP IS AN ELUSIVE QUALITY. IT IMPLIES MUCH MORE THAN GOOD STICK AND RUDDER SKILLS. THIS SPECIFIC CAPT HAS THE HABIT OF SAYING SOMETHING AND ACTUALLY DOING SOME OTHER THING. I ALSO BELIEVE HIS HEARING SKILLS ARE DECLINING AT THIS TIME. I BELIEVE I DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO REGAIN CTL OF THE ACFT, BUT THE CAPT FORCED MY INPUTS OUT OF THE WAY. WE ALMOST HAD A FIGHT IN THE COCKPIT. TO CORRECT THE SIT, CAPT SHOULD RETIRE FROM FLYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.