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Air carrier unable to make crossing restr when issued late. Controller was not aware of the route when aircraft was handed off from ARTCC.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 465530 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200003 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : psp.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Weather Elements | Turbulence Thunderstorm |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Airbus Industrie Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 465530 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Location: psp. ZLA first said traffic would follow us over psp, but we were cleared over palmdale. When we cleared it up, the previous controller was supposed to revise our clearance but did not. Socal said 'cross bands at 10000 ft,' but we could not because we had to slow down because of turbulence and the new clearance. When they handed us off to the next controller, he had an airbus he had to vector us around because we were too high and should have been under. If we had received the amended clearance at an early time we could have made the crossing altitude and slowed as well. There were thunderstorms in the area that made the arrival more difficult.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR UNABLE TO MAKE XING RESTR WHEN ISSUED LATE. CTLR WAS NOT AWARE OF THE RTE WHEN ACFT WAS HANDED OFF FROM ARTCC.
Narrative: LOCATION: PSP. ZLA FIRST SAID TFC WOULD FOLLOW US OVER PSP, BUT WE WERE CLRED OVER PALMDALE. WHEN WE CLRED IT UP, THE PREVIOUS CTLR WAS SUPPOSED TO REVISE OUR CLRNC BUT DID NOT. SOCAL SAID 'CROSS BANDS AT 10000 FT,' BUT WE COULD NOT BECAUSE WE HAD TO SLOW DOWN BECAUSE OF TURB AND THE NEW CLRNC. WHEN THEY HANDED US OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR, HE HAD AN AIRBUS HE HAD TO VECTOR US AROUND BECAUSE WE WERE TOO HIGH AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER. IF WE HAD RECEIVED THE AMENDED CLRNC AT AN EARLY TIME WE COULD HAVE MADE THE XING ALT AND SLOWED AS WELL. THERE WERE TSTMS IN THE AREA THAT MADE THE ARR MORE DIFFICULT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.