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Attributes | |
ACN | 467720 |
Time | |
Date | 200003 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation III, VI, VII |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 212 flight time total : 19840 flight time type : 6725 |
ASRS Report | 467720 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20300 |
ASRS Report | 467741 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We received taxi clearance prior to taxi from FBO to runway 25R and as I proceeded taxi I started to cross runway 25L and ground controller advised I had taxied onto active runway and said to turn right and exit on next taxiway, which I did immediately. We then received new taxi clearance to taxi on taxiway a to taxiway F, which I did. Both my first officer and I understood clearance to cross runway 25L so there apparently was a misunderstanding. I would not intentionally cross an active runway without clearance. Apparently there was confusion as to how the clearance was given and how it was received and understood.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RWY INCURSION AT LAX IS DISPUTED.
Narrative: WE RECEIVED TAXI CLRNC PRIOR TO TAXI FROM FBO TO RWY 25R AND AS I PROCEEDED TAXI I STARTED TO CROSS RWY 25L AND GND CTLR ADVISED I HAD TAXIED ONTO ACTIVE RWY AND SAID TO TURN R AND EXIT ON NEXT TXWY, WHICH I DID IMMEDIATELY. WE THEN RECEIVED NEW TAXI CLRNC TO TAXI ON TXWY A TO TXWY F, WHICH I DID. BOTH MY FO AND I UNDERSTOOD CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 25L SO THERE APPARENTLY WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING. I WOULD NOT INTENTIONALLY CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY WITHOUT CLRNC. APPARENTLY THERE WAS CONFUSION AS TO HOW THE CLRNC WAS GIVEN AND HOW IT WAS RECEIVED AND UNDERSTOOD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.