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Attributes | |
ACN | 468280 |
Time | |
Date | 200003 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | MT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9500 msl bound upper : 10400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 468280 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 72 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 72 |
ASRS Report | 468171 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : zlc radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued alert flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were established on V86 to bzn VOR at 11000 ft when ZLC asked if we had the airport in sight. We told them negative, and that we were IMC. He then told us radar service was terminated and we were cleared for the approach. We mistakenly looked at the approach chart for the ILS runway 12 bzn and saw 7300 ft at the VOR and started down for that. ZLC queried us as to whether we had started a descent, which we had. He advised us that the MEA was 10400 ft in the area and to return to at least that altitude. We climbed back to 10400 ft. ATIS was OTS, but ASOS was available. Also, we had been told earlier in the flight that the radar was OTS around bzn and that is why we were rted on the victor airway. In the future, I plan to look much more carefully at the MEA's (especially at airports in the vicinity of mountainous terrain) and review the approach charts more thoroughly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 CREW DSNDED BELOW THE MEA IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN WHEN RADAR SVC WAS TERMINATED.
Narrative: WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON V86 TO BZN VOR AT 11000 FT WHEN ZLC ASKED IF WE HAD THE ARPT IN SIGHT. WE TOLD THEM NEGATIVE, AND THAT WE WERE IMC. HE THEN TOLD US RADAR SVC WAS TERMINATED AND WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH. WE MISTAKENLY LOOKED AT THE APCH CHART FOR THE ILS RWY 12 BZN AND SAW 7300 FT AT THE VOR AND STARTED DOWN FOR THAT. ZLC QUERIED US AS TO WHETHER WE HAD STARTED A DSCNT, WHICH WE HAD. HE ADVISED US THAT THE MEA WAS 10400 FT IN THE AREA AND TO RETURN TO AT LEAST THAT ALT. WE CLBED BACK TO 10400 FT. ATIS WAS OTS, BUT ASOS WAS AVAILABLE. ALSO, WE HAD BEEN TOLD EARLIER IN THE FLT THAT THE RADAR WAS OTS AROUND BZN AND THAT IS WHY WE WERE RTED ON THE VICTOR AIRWAY. IN THE FUTURE, I PLAN TO LOOK MUCH MORE CAREFULLY AT THE MEA'S (ESPECIALLY AT ARPTS IN THE VICINITY OF MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN) AND REVIEW THE APCH CHARTS MORE THOROUGHLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.