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Attributes | |
ACN | 469170 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : locke |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13500 msl bound upper : 14400 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon tower : san.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : locke |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 469170 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 469171 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
When 20 NM east of locke intersection on STAR into oak received traffic alert from bay approach. TCASII confirmed, but captain or I did not have traffic in sight. We were instructed to level off at 13500 ft. When traffic (a piper lance) called having us in sight, bay approach cleared him to climb. He went through out altitude approximately 3 mi (on TCASII) off our right. TCASII instructed us to climb and RA terminated. Seems dangerous to put potential conflict onto judgement of private pilot with unknown experience or judgement.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR HAS TCASII RA NEAR LOCKE INTXN, CA, AFTER AN ADVISORY BY O90 TRACON AND A SUBSEQUENT CLRNC OF THE INTRUDING ACFT TO CLB THROUGH THE CARRIER'S ALT.
Narrative: WHEN 20 NM E OF LOCKE INTXN ON STAR INTO OAK RECEIVED TFC ALERT FROM BAY APCH. TCASII CONFIRMED, BUT CAPT OR I DID NOT HAVE TFC IN SIGHT. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO LEVEL OFF AT 13500 FT. WHEN TFC (A PIPER LANCE) CALLED HAVING US IN SIGHT, BAY APCH CLRED HIM TO CLB. HE WENT THROUGH OUT ALT APPROX 3 MI (ON TCASII) OFF OUR R. TCASII INSTRUCTED US TO CLB AND RA TERMINATED. SEEMS DANGEROUS TO PUT POTENTIAL CONFLICT ONTO JUDGEMENT OF PVT PLT WITH UNKNOWN EXPERIENCE OR JUDGEMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.