37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 470280 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 470280 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were given a climb to 13000 ft from 10000 ft (level) and a turn to intercept the airway. I had the autoplt engaged and thought I pushed the flight level change button and looked over to see the experienced copilot having trouble getting the correct bearing to the station because he thought according to his training at our company and the ambiguous manual. I said no, that's the wrong bearing. Even though that's what's printed on the chart for the airway, it's too far away and so it doesn't overlay the fix on the airway behind us. About this time, center called us with the same clearance to climb, and we both noticed we were still at 10000 ft. I let the distraction of navigation keep me from making sure the aircraft actually started a climb.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DISTR WITH HIS FO'S NAV PROB, THE PLT DOES NOT LEAVE ALT WHEN CLRED.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A CLB TO 13000 FT FROM 10000 FT (LEVEL) AND A TURN TO INTERCEPT THE AIRWAY. I HAD THE AUTOPLT ENGAGED AND THOUGHT I PUSHED THE FLT LEVEL CHANGE BUTTON AND LOOKED OVER TO SEE THE EXPERIENCED COPLT HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THE CORRECT BEARING TO THE STATION BECAUSE HE THOUGHT ACCORDING TO HIS TRAINING AT OUR COMPANY AND THE AMBIGUOUS MANUAL. I SAID NO, THAT'S THE WRONG BEARING. EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT'S PRINTED ON THE CHART FOR THE AIRWAY, IT'S TOO FAR AWAY AND SO IT DOESN'T OVERLAY THE FIX ON THE AIRWAY BEHIND US. ABOUT THIS TIME, CTR CALLED US WITH THE SAME CLRNC TO CLB, AND WE BOTH NOTICED WE WERE STILL AT 10000 FT. I LET THE DISTR OF NAV KEEP ME FROM MAKING SURE THE ACFT ACTUALLY STARTED A CLB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.