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Attributes | |
ACN | 473746 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p31.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p31.tracon |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Mentor (T-34) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 473746 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 10 vertical : 10 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : p31.tracon |
Narrative:
Air carrier X, SF340, inbound to pns was descending to 8000 ft. The military T34 departed nse to the north and terminated radar service. Air carrier X was issued traffic and safety alert. The T34 climb into the SF340. When the SF340 turned right to avoid the T34, the T34 appeared to have turned left into the SF340. The pilot of air carrier X then advised they were turning back to the left, to avoid the T34. The radar targets merged at the same altitude. It is my understanding that these military T34's are equipped with their version of TCASII. Even though these are training flts, the instructor pilots have the responsibility to maintain due diligence regarding the safety of flight. This is a persistent problem in this airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN ACR SF340 DSNDING THROUGH 8000 FT TO PNS AND A MIL T34 CLBING OUT FROM NSE AND TURNING INTO THE ON COMING SF340. THE SF340 TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TURNING AWAY FROM THE T34.
Narrative: ACR X, SF340, INBOUND TO PNS WAS DSNDING TO 8000 FT. THE MIL T34 DEPARTED NSE TO THE N AND TERMINATED RADAR SVC. ACR X WAS ISSUED TFC AND SAFETY ALERT. THE T34 CLB INTO THE SF340. WHEN THE SF340 TURNED R TO AVOID THE T34, THE T34 APPEARED TO HAVE TURNED L INTO THE SF340. THE PLT OF ACR X THEN ADVISED THEY WERE TURNING BACK TO THE L, TO AVOID THE T34. THE RADAR TARGETS MERGED AT THE SAME ALT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE MIL T34'S ARE EQUIPPED WITH THEIR VERSION OF TCASII. EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE TRAINING FLTS, THE INSTRUCTOR PLTS HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN DUE DILIGENCE REGARDING THE SAFETY OF FLT. THIS IS A PERSISTENT PROB IN THIS AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.