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Attributes | |
ACN | 474063 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sql.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sql.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sql.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 929 flight time type : 730 |
ASRS Report | 474063 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time none taken : unable none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 40 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flying our cessna 172 westward inbound to san carlos airport from the east side of the san francisco bay, we called the tower over the common reporting point coyote hills. San carlos airport is a tower controled class D airspace. The san carlos tower controller acknowledge our call sign and asked for an identify. We responded with an identify from our transponder and were given the normal instructions to report the cement plant on the west shore of the bay for a right traffic base entry for landing on runway 30. We crossed the bay and reported the cement plant at traffic pattern altitude of 800 ft. Another cessna 172 to our right on right traffic downwind was instructed by the tower controller to follow us. The other cessna 172 is from one of the flight schools at san carlos airport. The pilot of the other cessna responded that he did not have us in sight and was 'looking.' the tower controller then gave us the verbal '#1 cleared to land.' the distance from the cement plant to the final approach path is about 1 1/2 NM. Our airspeed was 80 KTS. So it only takes about 1 1/4 mins to reach the final approach path once crossing over the cement plant. We put in 10 degrees of flaps and reduce the power to initiate our descent and turn right onto the final approach path. We had just descended through 700 ft and were about to turn right onto final when the other cessna 172 crossed directly in front of us from our right to our left. We estimated that he was about 40 ft above us and less than 100 ft in front of us. This scared us to no end. In our opinion we had come extremely close to a midair collision while on our base leg to final as the other cessna crossed over base almost in line with the final approach path. We immediately radioed the tower what had happened. There was no response from the controller. The pilot in the other cessna called to say that he was 300 ft above us. He was not. His position was nearly outbound in the opposite direction on the final approach path. After a few seconds, the controller informed us the other aircraft was above us and once again cleared us to land. We proceeded to land safely without further incident. As we taxied to our tie down spot, we saw the other cessna on final approach. In our opinion there was no way he could have made a normal base entry to final. It is our opinion that the pilot of the other cessna must have made a 180 degree turn onto final for his landing. When we were cleared #1 for landing by the tower controller, we assumed the airspace along base and along final and the runway were ours, clear of all other traffic. After all, this is a controled class D airspace and we were cleared for landing, and should expect no other aircraft in that same airspace. There was no traffic alert warning given by the controller to either aircraft. The pilot of the other cessna did not acknowledge that he had us in sight until the midair near miss occurred. We assume the other pilot may have been a student pilot, not familiar with procedures and landmarks at san carlos airport. The other pilot should have widened his downwind leg outwards towards the cement plant anticipating following behind us inbound on base. He did not, but instead flew to the normal base to final transition point. In this instance, the tower controller should have given further instructions to the other pilot, to ensure aircraft separation, once he stated that he did not have us in sight. However, no such additional instructions were given to the other pilot. The lesson here is, even though you are close in on base and cleared to land by the airport tower controller, keep your situational awareness alive and look for and expect other traffic to be in your airspace as you approach final for landing, even though you are flying in a controled airport class D airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN A CESSNA 172 TURNING FINAL FROM A R BASED LEG AND ANOTHER C172 FROM A FLYING SCHOOL PASSING ON A R DOWNWIND LEG. NO EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN DUE TO THE LAST SIGHTING OF THE OTHER ACFT.
Narrative: FLYING OUR CESSNA 172 WESTWARD INBOUND TO SAN CARLOS ARPT FROM THE E SIDE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY, WE CALLED THE TWR OVER THE COMMON RPTING POINT COYOTE HILLS. SAN CARLOS ARPT IS A TWR CTLED CLASS D AIRSPACE. THE SAN CARLOS TWR CTLR ACKNOWLEDGE OUR CALL SIGN AND ASKED FOR AN IDENT. WE RESPONDED WITH AN IDENT FROM OUR XPONDER AND WERE GIVEN THE NORMAL INSTRUCTIONS TO RPT THE CEMENT PLANT ON THE W SHORE OF THE BAY FOR A R TFC BASE ENTRY FOR LNDG ON RWY 30. WE CROSSED THE BAY AND RPTED THE CEMENT PLANT AT TFC PATTERN ALT OF 800 FT. ANOTHER CESSNA 172 TO OUR R ON R TFC DOWNWIND WAS INSTRUCTED BY THE TWR CTLR TO FOLLOW US. THE OTHER CESSNA 172 IS FROM ONE OF THE FLT SCHOOLS AT SAN CARLOS ARPT. THE PLT OF THE OTHER CESSNA RESPONDED THAT HE DID NOT HAVE US IN SIGHT AND WAS 'LOOKING.' THE TWR CTLR THEN GAVE US THE VERBAL '#1 CLRED TO LAND.' THE DISTANCE FROM THE CEMENT PLANT TO THE FINAL APCH PATH IS ABOUT 1 1/2 NM. OUR AIRSPD WAS 80 KTS. SO IT ONLY TAKES ABOUT 1 1/4 MINS TO REACH THE FINAL APCH PATH ONCE XING OVER THE CEMENT PLANT. WE PUT IN 10 DEGS OF FLAPS AND REDUCE THE PWR TO INITIATE OUR DSCNT AND TURN R ONTO THE FINAL APCH PATH. WE HAD JUST DSNDED THROUGH 700 FT AND WERE ABOUT TO TURN R ONTO FINAL WHEN THE OTHER CESSNA 172 CROSSED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US FROM OUR R TO OUR L. WE ESTIMATED THAT HE WAS ABOUT 40 FT ABOVE US AND LESS THAN 100 FT IN FRONT OF US. THIS SCARED US TO NO END. IN OUR OPINION WE HAD COME EXTREMELY CLOSE TO A MIDAIR COLLISION WHILE ON OUR BASE LEG TO FINAL AS THE OTHER CESSNA CROSSED OVER BASE ALMOST IN LINE WITH THE FINAL APCH PATH. WE IMMEDIATELY RADIOED THE TWR WHAT HAD HAPPENED. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE CTLR. THE PLT IN THE OTHER CESSNA CALLED TO SAY THAT HE WAS 300 FT ABOVE US. HE WAS NOT. HIS POS WAS NEARLY OUTBOUND IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION ON THE FINAL APCH PATH. AFTER A FEW SECONDS, THE CTLR INFORMED US THE OTHER ACFT WAS ABOVE US AND ONCE AGAIN CLRED US TO LAND. WE PROCEEDED TO LAND SAFELY WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. AS WE TAXIED TO OUR TIE DOWN SPOT, WE SAW THE OTHER CESSNA ON FINAL APCH. IN OUR OPINION THERE WAS NO WAY HE COULD HAVE MADE A NORMAL BASE ENTRY TO FINAL. IT IS OUR OPINION THAT THE PLT OF THE OTHER CESSNA MUST HAVE MADE A 180 DEG TURN ONTO FINAL FOR HIS LNDG. WHEN WE WERE CLRED #1 FOR LNDG BY THE TWR CTLR, WE ASSUMED THE AIRSPACE ALONG BASE AND ALONG FINAL AND THE RWY WERE OURS, CLR OF ALL OTHER TFC. AFTER ALL, THIS IS A CTLED CLASS D AIRSPACE AND WE WERE CLRED FOR LNDG, AND SHOULD EXPECT NO OTHER ACFT IN THAT SAME AIRSPACE. THERE WAS NO TFC ALERT WARNING GIVEN BY THE CTLR TO EITHER ACFT. THE PLT OF THE OTHER CESSNA DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE HAD US IN SIGHT UNTIL THE MIDAIR NEAR MISS OCCURRED. WE ASSUME THE OTHER PLT MAY HAVE BEEN A STUDENT PLT, NOT FAMILIAR WITH PROCS AND LANDMARKS AT SAN CARLOS ARPT. THE OTHER PLT SHOULD HAVE WIDENED HIS DOWNWIND LEG OUTWARDS TOWARDS THE CEMENT PLANT ANTICIPATING FOLLOWING BEHIND US INBOUND ON BASE. HE DID NOT, BUT INSTEAD FLEW TO THE NORMAL BASE TO FINAL TRANSITION POINT. IN THIS INSTANCE, THE TWR CTLR SHOULD HAVE GIVEN FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS TO THE OTHER PLT, TO ENSURE ACFT SEPARATION, ONCE HE STATED THAT HE DID NOT HAVE US IN SIGHT. HOWEVER, NO SUCH ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN TO THE OTHER PLT. THE LESSON HERE IS, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE CLOSE IN ON BASE AND CLRED TO LAND BY THE ARPT TWR CTLR, KEEP YOUR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS ALIVE AND LOOK FOR AND EXPECT OTHER TFC TO BE IN YOUR AIRSPACE AS YOU APCH FINAL FOR LNDG, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE FLYING IN A CTLED ARPT CLASS D AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.