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Attributes | |
ACN | 474450 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 14r other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 14r |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 474450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 900 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Tracking inbound localizer runway 14R ord, we were being stepped down from 7000 ft to 5000 ft following a B747. We were above GS. ATC had not issued an approach clearance because of spacing behind the B747. We had been slowed from 210 KTS, to 170 KTS then to 160 KTS, then cleared down to 2500 ft. I went to landing confign in order to slow down and maintain a descent profile that would bring me down to the marker crossing altitude and establish a stabilized profile from the marker inbound. We had visual with the B747 and the airport. Approach control had not issued an approach clearance. At the marker we switched over to the control tower as is normal procedure at ord. I was in a mindset of continuing to land and completing the before landing checklist. At the marker and GS intercept I continued down the glide path and at 2300 ft realized we did not have an approach clearance and leveled off. The first officer contacted the tower and we were giving the option of a go around or a visual behind the B747. We had adequate spacing and visual on the aircraft ahead and landed without incident. There were several factors involved leading up to this situation. We were being held high while the B747 was vectored on the localizer in front of us. The B747 reduced his speed unexpectantly and we had to fully configure in order to slow down and descend further out than normal, which led to a very busy cockpit environment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB145 FLC START AN ILS APCH, SWITCHING TO TWR FREQ WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT THEY HAD BEEN CLRED FOR THE ILS APCH TO RWY 14R WHILE 3 MI BEHIND A B747 AT ORD, IL.
Narrative: TRACKING INBOUND LOC RWY 14R ORD, WE WERE BEING STEPPED DOWN FROM 7000 FT TO 5000 FT FOLLOWING A B747. WE WERE ABOVE GS. ATC HAD NOT ISSUED AN APCH CLRNC BECAUSE OF SPACING BEHIND THE B747. WE HAD BEEN SLOWED FROM 210 KTS, TO 170 KTS THEN TO 160 KTS, THEN CLRED DOWN TO 2500 FT. I WENT TO LNDG CONFIGN IN ORDER TO SLOW DOWN AND MAINTAIN A DSCNT PROFILE THAT WOULD BRING ME DOWN TO THE MARKER XING ALT AND ESTABLISH A STABILIZED PROFILE FROM THE MARKER INBOUND. WE HAD VISUAL WITH THE B747 AND THE ARPT. APCH CTL HAD NOT ISSUED AN APCH CLRNC. AT THE MARKER WE SWITCHED OVER TO THE CTL TWR AS IS NORMAL PROC AT ORD. I WAS IN A MINDSET OF CONTINUING TO LAND AND COMPLETING THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST. AT THE MARKER AND GS INTERCEPT I CONTINUED DOWN THE GLIDE PATH AND AT 2300 FT REALIZED WE DID NOT HAVE AN APCH CLRNC AND LEVELED OFF. THE FO CONTACTED THE TWR AND WE WERE GIVING THE OPTION OF A GAR OR A VISUAL BEHIND THE B747. WE HAD ADEQUATE SPACING AND VISUAL ON THE ACFT AHEAD AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. THERE WERE SEVERAL FACTORS INVOLVED LEADING UP TO THIS SIT. WE WERE BEING HELD HIGH WHILE THE B747 WAS VECTORED ON THE LOC IN FRONT OF US. THE B747 REDUCED HIS SPD UNEXPECTANTLY AND WE HAD TO FULLY CONFIGURE IN ORDER TO SLOW DOWN AND DSND FURTHER OUT THAN NORMAL, WHICH LED TO A VERY BUSY COCKPIT ENVIRONMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.